Evidence of 'God Particle' found

[Baz]

Originally Posted by Gerald

You missed the point [I don't blame you] to spew your neo-conservative hatred for common sense. My point was that crediting a supernatural being for something and chiding others for trying to examine and observe the reality of the situation is nothing but sheer laziness.
You need to lay off the Oxycodone

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

Most of them have the same problem. They exclude God in their "discoveries" instead of crediting Him with them.

And how should they do that?
At the end say, "But really, we did nothing, it was all thanks to god for letting us discover this!"

Seriously, what is the issue?
"VATICAN CITY – The Vatican and the world’s largest particle physics laboratory, CERN, plan an informal exchange of scientists.

The Geneva-based laboratory would like to invite an astronomer from the Vatican Observatory to collaborate on studies concerning the origin of the universe, said Ugo Amaldi, a professor of medical physics and president of the TERA Foundation, which works closely with CERN in finding ways to apply atomic research in treating cancer.

CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, “is an international and European (facility), and to have the Vatican Observatory send some or one of its young scientists will be something that is extremely important,” he said.

He made his comments during a Dec. 10 Vatican press conference launching the Italian-language version of “The Heavens Proclaim,” a book about the history of the Vatican and astronomy.

The head of the Vatican Observatory, Jesuit Father Jose Funes, said during the book presentation that he hopes Gabriele Gionti, a young Vatican astronomer who will be ordained in June, will be involved in the CERN collaboration.

Gionti has a doctorate in physics and specializes in quantum gravity, and he is finishing his theology studies at the Center for Theology and the Natural Sciences in Berkeley, Calif.

Father Funes told Catholic News Service that scientists at CERN are interested in “astroparticles - the first particles in the universe. And at the moment we don’t have anyone on our staff prepared to follow these studies. So maybe Gabriele Gionti has the background and the interest in collaborating on these topics.”

The plan for a Vatican-CERN exchange was borne out of a visit, organized in part by Amaldi, of a Vatican delegation to the CERN facilities in July. The delegation included Father Funes and Cardinal Giovanni Lajolo, president of the commission governing Vatican City.

Amaldi, who worked as a particle physicist at CERN, told CNS that even though CERN scientists study subatomic particles and Vatican astronomers study large celestial objects and enormous galaxies, “there are theoretical similarities” in their research on the origin of the universe, stars and planets.

He said ideally a Vatican collaborator would stay a year to work closely with scientists conducting experiments with CERN’s Large Hadron Collider - the world’s most powerful subatomic particle collider, which is used in experiments for trying to better understand the universe and what happened immediately after the Big Bang.

Amaldi said it would be interesting to have an astronomer who can look at the data from these experiments “from that other point of view - a view of astronomy” and its big-picture perspective.

Amaldi has also proposed that CERN scientists volunteer to teach at the Vatican Observatory’s summer school, held in Castel Gandolfo every other year for students in the final years of undergraduate or early years of graduate studies in astronomy or astrophysics. At least one-third of the students come from developing countries.

Amaldi said “teaching courses at the wonderful school (the Jesuit astronomers) have will be the next step, and it’s important because it can touch a lot of countries” that have no contact with CERN and its studies."


TL;DR : Catholics gave up on hindering science a long time ago. CERN has some scientists from the Vatican. Only shed-dwelling church-goers in the South seem to take issue with it.

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by Gerald

TL;DR : Catholics gave up on hindering science a long time ago. CERN has some scientists from the Vatican. Only shed-dwelling church-goers in the South seem to take issue with it.

I wouldn't have put it quite that way but regardless, I think I like you.

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Gerald

You missed the point [I don't blame you] to spew your neo-conservative hatred for common sense. My point was that crediting a supernatural being for something and chiding others for trying to examine and observe the reality of the situation is nothing but sheer laziness. You need to lay off the Oxycodone

You're totally out there kid. The issue isn't man looking deeper into matter, it's the name someone attached to it that I commented on.

The last time man tried to get too "smart" God stopped them in their tracks. While there may be some good coming out of this research, more than likely, more bad will too.

Originally Posted by Gerald

Careful: your ignorance is showing. "WERE THERE ANY PRACTICAL RESULTS FROM THE SEARCH? Not directly. But the massive scientific effort that led up to the discovery has paid off in other ways, one of which was the creation of the World Wide Web. CERN scientists developed it to make it easier to exchange information among each other. The vast computing power needed to crunch all of the data produced by the atom smasher has also boosted the development of distributed -- or cloud -- computing, which is now making its way into mainstream services. Advances in solar energy capture, medical imaging and proton therapy -- used in the fight against cancer -- have also resulted from the work of particle physicists at CERN and elsewhere." I thought this was common knowledge... but I forgot common knowledge and common sense isn't as common with the common neocon.

Al Gore won't like hearing that...

Originally Posted by Baz

Don't you have some DNC work to catch up on? Or maybe some emails to you family in Iran?

[Gerald]

The "name" attached to it is the Higgs Bosom. Its nickname is the "God particle" so it alleviate the stress associated with learning about real things and make the concept more simple to understand for the everyday Joe Shmoe. I suppose they forgot the shed-dwellers.

"The last time man tried to get too "smart" God stopped them in their tracks."


"While there may be some good coming out of this research, more than likely, more bad will too."
You base this upon your extensive background in the physical sciences, correct? Not simply a fear-mongering, ignorant Baptist?

Out of my extensive, fact-filled reply to your comment about there being nothing come out of this research that is useful, all you had was a quip about Al Gore?



Lastly, the University of Cambridge has an article about conservatives vs liberals and their development of their brains [WARNING: SCIENCE IS ALL UP IN THIS, YA'LL]

Our political allegiances could be hard-wired into our brains, neuroscientists believe.
Researchers have found evidence that the brains of conservatives are a different shape to those of Left-wingers.
Scans of 90 students’ brains at University College London uncovered a ‘strong correlation’ between the thickness of two particular areas of grey matter and an individual’s political views.

Self-proclaimed right-wingers had a more pronounced amygdala - a primitive part of the brain associated with emotion.
It is an almond-shape set of neurons located deep in the brain's medial temporal lobe.

However, those aligned to the left had thicker anterior cingulates - which is an area associated with anticipation and decision-making.

The research was carried out by Geraint Rees director of the UCL Institute of Cognitive Neuroscience who said he was 'very surprised' by the finding, which is being peer reviewed before publication next year.
It was commissioned as a light-hearted experiment by actor Colin Firth as part of his turn guest editing BBC Radio 4's Today programme but has now developed into a serious effort to discover whether we are programmed with a particular political view.


Professor Rees said that although it was not precise enough to be able to predict someone's stance simply from a scan, there was 'a strong correlation that reaches all our scientific tests of significance'.
'The anterior cingulate is a part of the brain that is on the middle surface of the brain at the front and we found that the thickness of the grey matter, where the nerve cells of neurons are, was thicker the more people described themselves as liberal or left wing and thinner the more they described themselves as conservative or right wing,' he told the programme.
'The amygdala is a part of the brain which is very old and very ancient and thought to be very primitive and to do with the detection of emotions. The right amygdala was larger in those people who described themselves as conservative."

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by Gerald

Self-proclaimed right-wingers had a more pronounced amygdala - a primitive part of the brain associated with emotion.
It is an almond-shape set of neurons located deep in the brain's medial temporal lobe.

However, those aligned to the left had thicker anterior cingulates - which is an area associated with anticipation and decision-making.

Facinating, but this is the typical chicken or egg. Does the physical matter of the brain influence certain thought processes in this instance, or does the thought processes in this instance influcence the physical matter of the brain?

With that having been said, generally speaking, I do find right-wingers more reactionary than cerebral.

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Gerald

"The last time man tried to get too "smart" God stopped them in their tracks."

You find humor in that? Ignorance is bliss I guess

Originally Posted by Gerald

"While there may be some good coming out of this research, more than likely, more bad will too."
You base this upon your extensive background in the physical sciences, correct? Not simply a fear-mongering, ignorant Baptist?

Sorry that you're unable to see the obvious. Pull your head out of your science book and see reality. And who's a Baptist btw?

Originally Posted by Gerald

Out of my extensive, fact-filled reply to your comment about there being nothing come out of this research that is useful, all you had was a quip about Al Gore?

See the problem here? Your facts vs God's facts. Your extensive BS rant is nothing but YOU puppeting another's BS. Science over God NEVER wins. Get a clue then come back.

Originally Posted by Gerald

Our political allegiances could be hard-wired into our brains, neuroscientists believe. Researchers have found evidence that the brains of conservatives are a different shape to those of Left-wingers.
Scans of 90 students’ brains at University College London uncovered a ‘strong correlation’ between the thickness of two particular areas of grey matter and an individual’s political views. [B] Self-proclaimed right-wingers had a more pronounced amygdala - a primitive part of the brain associated with emotion. It is an almond-shape set of neurons located deep in the brain's medial temporal lobe.

What a gullible maroon! You're completely blinded by science. Typical liberal! Always man over God, eh? It has nothing to do with their brain because you lefties have no brains. What's next; you'll tell me there's a gay gene?

[Gerald]

Male homosexuality is inborn and may be triggered by a gene carried by mothers, new findings suggest.

Evolutionarily speaking, homosexuality as a trait would not last because it discourages reproductive sex with women and therefore procreation.


Photo: REUTERS/Ricardo Moraes
Male homosexuality is inborn and may be triggered by a gene carried by mothers, new findings suggest. Researchers found a correlation between gay men and their mothers and maternal aunts, who are prone to have significantly more children compared to the maternal relatives of straight men.


However a new study, published in The Journal of Sexual Medicine, found a correlation between gay men and their mothers and maternal aunts, who are prone to have significantly more children compared to the maternal relatives of straight men.

Researchers led by Andrea Camperio Ciani, from the University of Padova in Italy, say that the findings of the link between homosexuality and female fertility strongly support the "balancing selection hypothesis," which suggests that a gene which causes homosexuality also leads to high fecundity or reproduction among their female relatives.

The team noted that the "gay man gene" may not get passed down directly, but instead survive through the generations through future generations making their male inheritors gay.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

You find humor in that? Ignorance is bliss I guess

You still have yet to say what you're referencing.



"Sorry that you're unable to see the obvious. Pull your head out of your science book and see reality. And who's a Baptist btw?"

What are you meandering on about?
I assumed Baptist because they're typically the largest group of people who hate science in the region. A bit of stereotyping on my part due to the church leaders to which I've spoken.


"See the problem here? Your facts vs God's facts."
What ARE you talking about?

" Your extensive BS rant is nothing but YOU puppeting another's BS."
Yes, the greatest minds of the world are obviously full of "BS", including the Catholic Church.

" Science over God NEVER wins."
No one said it is science over God. You're being reactionary due to the nickname "God particle".

" Get a clue then come back."


"What a gullible maroon! You're completely blinded by science."


"Typical liberal!"
I'm not a liberal, Mr. Labels. Trying to categorize to justify your hate. Cute. Refer to the article I posted.

" Always man over God, eh?"
I posted an article from the Catholic Church.

"It has nothing to do with their brain"
According to leading researchers and the pinnacle of medical technology, it does.

"because you lefties have no brains."
Irony is..

"What's next; you'll tell me there's a gay gene? "

Reference my last post; couple that with the fact that homosexuality is found in over 450 different species.

Homophobia is only found in one.

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Gerald

Male homosexuality is inborn and may be triggered by a gene carried by mothers, new findings suggest.

OF COURSE unbelieving scientists would say that; They have an agenda to push

God says it's a choice, man says otherwise; Case closed, end of story. Now I know that you're incapable of discerning the truth. Best wishes