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Old 08-20-2012, 03:53 PM   #51
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We are not surprised by the "racial demographic" of all the accusers either.

The one black man who is accused is simple some random black man paying the cashier on a video at a store.

If the guy only had on a hoodie then some white looking person could just shot him dead for being suspicious to the white folk.

That makes about as much sense as your failed election campaign
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:56 PM   #52
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You're calling them a liar? Saying they didn't see what they saw? Based on what Jimmy? You don't want to believe it so it's not true?
I apologize, as I got confused with this other thread HERE.

The racist comments one the one thread got me confused by the racist comments on the other thread.

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Old 08-20-2012, 06:01 PM   #53
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I apologize, as I got confused with this other thread HERE.

The racist comments one the one thread got me confused by the racist comments on the other thread.

So many racist comments..so little time to respond to them all. It sucks to be you, Jimmy..but carry on.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:29 AM   #54
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To imply that the opinions here are "racist" is ridiculous. Most intelligent people in this country have caught on to that old tactic "if they don't agree, scream racism." It simply doesn't work anymore, so you'll have to come up with something new. Its not wrong to question government programs that are funded by taxpayers money. Its not wrong to scrutinize how tax payers money is being put to use, used properly or improperly. Its not wrong for me to cry foul when not only myself but others have seen multiple abuses of the program and ultimately the federal government becoming enablers of worsening conditions. The welfare program while helping some is good for those who genuinely need it, however for others in their case the medicine has become the poison.

What's really disturbing is how you defend these welfare system abusers and ignore the fact that they exist. That is the problem, and that simple fact right there is going to be what builds a growing base of support to have it heavily regulated even moreso than it already is and or shut down altogether. It seems clear that you've made the choice to side with ignorance and in the end when your made to pee in a cup, you've got investigators taking pictures of people receiving government funding riding in expensive cars and you observe the whole system start giving people the boot perhaps then you will smarten up and understand why it occurred. The reason it will happen is because ambassadors of the program like yourself continue to defend the actions of the abusers. Common sense working taxpayers are sick of going to work living normal lives and always struggling to get by in some sense while others sit at home, put in applications for jobs they probably don't want and collect state and government funding for free. What's worse is that some of these citizens collecting that free taxmoney are not being frugal but they are actually living high on the hog - bigscreen tv's, luxury cars with expensive accessories, drinking top shelf liquor, they've got money set aside for drugs, and they continue to often have multiple kids so they can get even more "assistance." The children often grow up fatherless and the cycle runs full circle. At some point it becomes the governments responsibility to break the cycle.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:53 AM   #55
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To imply that the opinions here are "racist" is ridiculous. Most intelligent people in this country have caught on to that old tactic "if they don't agree, scream racism." It simply doesn't work anymore, so you'll have to come up with something new. Its not wrong to question government programs that are funded by taxpayers money. Its not wrong to scrutinize how tax payers money is being put to use, used properly or improperly. Its not wrong for me to cry foul when not only myself but others have seen multiple abuses of the program and ultimately the federal government becoming enablers of worsening conditions. The welfare program while helping some is good for those who genuinely need it, however for others in their case the medicine has become the poison.

What's really disturbing is how you defend these welfare system abusers and ignore the fact that they exist. That is the problem, and that simple fact right there is going to be what builds a growing base of support to have it heavily regulated even moreso than it already is and or shut down altogether. It seems clear that you've made the choice to side with ignorance and in the end when your made to pee in a cup, you've got investigators taking pictures of people receiving government funding riding in expensive cars and you observe the whole system start giving people the boot perhaps then you will smarten up and understand why it occurred. The reason it will happen is because ambassadors of the program like yourself continue to defend the actions of the abusers. Common sense working taxpayers are sick of going to work living normal lives and always struggling to get by in some sense while others sit at home, put in applications for jobs they probably don't want and collect state and government funding for free. What's worse is that some of these citizens collecting that free taxmoney are not being frugal but they are actually living high on the hog - bigscreen tv's, luxury cars with expensive accessories, drinking top shelf liquor, they've got money set aside for drugs, and they continue to often have multiple kids so they can get even more "assistance." The children often grow up fatherless and the cycle runs full circle. At some point it becomes the governments responsibility to break the cycle.
I do not see you saying anything of substance or of merit, as this is just a ranting of your own opinions and your own feelings, and as such there is no way of telling you that you are wrong because you do not present this as a matter of accuracy.

What your ranting does demonstrate is that you are cruel, cold, uninformed and unsafe.

You deserve my pity.

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Old 08-21-2012, 09:02 AM   #56
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You deserve my pity.
Seem fair to me. Seeing how incredibly much you receive already, it's nice to give some back. Right? I mean seriously, if you corner the market on scorn, pity and ridicule (and you nearly have), there won't be any left to heap on anyone else, now will there?
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:06 PM   #57
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We are not surprised by the "racial demographic" of all the accusers either.

The one black man who is accused is simple some random black man paying the cashier on a video at a store.

If the guy only had on a hoodie then some white looking person could just shot him dead for being suspicious to the white folk.

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I do not see you saying anything of substance or of merit, as this is just a ranting of your own opinions and your own feelings, and as such there is no way of telling you that you are wrong because you do not present this as a matter of accuracy.
I assume based on your first and second statements, you can show that your first comment "If the guy only had on a hoodie..." is fact, and not just your twisted opinion and perception of a situation.






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What your ranting does demonstrate is that you are cruel, cold, uninformed and unsafe.
What his statement demonstrates is how well he understands how those like you are scamming the system at our expense.
What your response to his statement shows is that you fear too many people figuring this out and cutting you off of your ill gained assistance.


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He deserves you to show up and clean his toilets, or wash his cars, or any other menial labor that he can get out of you as repayment of stolen tax dollars used to support you and those like you.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:13 PM   #58
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I assume based on your first and second statements, you can show that your first comment "If the guy only had on a hoodie..." is fact, and not just your twisted opinion and perception of a situation.
Of course it was not a fact, and yes it was just my own twisted perception, and I figured that was obvious.

I still count it as true and accurate anyway.

The reference to the "hoodie" was just a re-take from the Trayvon Martin murder case.

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Old 08-21-2012, 03:23 PM   #59
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Of course it was not a fact, and yes it was just my own twisted perception, and I figured that was obvious.

I still count it as true and accurate anyway.

The reference to the "hoodie" was just a re-take from the Trayvon Martin murder case.

you still hold your OPINION as true and accurate, yet you will shoot down other peoples OPINION as
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So in your mind, other peoples opinons are without merit because they are not presented as a matter of acccuracy.

So evidently you think your, opinion is based on fact and accuracy, Im only asking that you post links that will back your opinion and make it fact.

I certainly dont see where that could be a problem for you.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:20 AM   #60
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That is really not true - as poor people really are poor.

If they had no car or no money at all then they would be worst than poor, and the USA does not want destitute bums walking around in our rich Country.

Lots of poor people get nice things given to them by friends and by their family members and churches give nice stuff to poor people. The old Ford truck that I have use to belong to the Catholic Priest in Lex Park and it was given to me for free and I love my old truck.

The gov office that gives out Food Stamps actually monitors the Bank accounts and transactions, along with monitoring any activity to each SSN, and it is not very easy to qualify for any Public Assistance as the rules are very strict.



Really it is very seldom that Welfare gives out actual cash money, as money only goes to people with a minor child and to disabled people, and they do not give very much.
The money it takes just to keep gasoline in the Governor's Limousine would be far more money than is given to any Welfare recipient.

And when they force Welfare recipients into those menial jobs and community projects then that keeps the persons from going out to find a real job, and the low junk jobs are things that keep them down.

Poor people on Welfare have lots of incentive, as like any decent job advertised and we will get thousands of such people lining up for blocks waiting to apply for any such job.

Your information is simply not accurate.

So what you are telling me is that these people are being given really nice Cadillac’s, Lexus cars, etc. by their families. That must be really nice, give them a really expensive car but ignore their need for food so much they need food stamps.

Food stamps cost the taxpayer money so don't act like it can't be treated as so when people abuse it.

It's also not hard for people who get cash on the job (thus when I worked in a grocery store I saw people with just ridiculous stacks of cash using the EBT card) not to put it in their banks and still benefit from the system. The only thing some of these people are poor in are morals.

Also, don't tell me applying for a job takes 8 hours a day 7 days a week. I am saying WHEN they have the extra time, which they do, set a certain amount of work they need to do for the community over a two week period. Trust me when these people have to work for their free handouts the system will be abused less.

And don't tell me I didn't see what I saw. I saw more abuse than those actually in need of it. I have seen the abuse first hand. Take those rose tinted glasses off when looking at the system; it needs more regulation and ways for store employees and the general public to report abuses. Also food stamps should not be able to be used on premier items. You are getting taxpayer money to help you survive not to let you live the life of luxury.
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