US ambassador 'killed in Libya'

[rmorse]

Originally Posted by EmptyTimCup

Oh ya another misguided individual; that thinks they found something wrong in the Bible ...........

Lol.

[Dev]

Originally Posted by EmptyTimCup

Was Hitler a Christian?

Really based on what ?

was he in church on sundays ........ or just sucking up to get elected

Adolph believed in one deity - himself

. Adolf Hitler: Religious Life as the Highest and Most Desirable Ideal
I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 1
4. Adolf Hitler: Christianity and the Holy German Reich
As long as leadership from above was not lacking, the people fulfilled their duty and obligation overwhelmingly. Whether Protestant pastor or Catholic priest, both together and particularly at the first flare, there really existed in both camps but a single holy German Reich, for whose existence and future each man turned to his own heaven.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 3
5. Adolf Hitler: Significance of the Religion of Love
The more abstractly correct and hence powerful this idea will be, the more impossible remains its complete fulfillment as long as it continues to depend on human beings... If this were not so, the founders of religion could not be counted among the greatest men of this earth... In its workings, even the religion of love is only the weak reflection of the will of its exalted founder; its significance, however, lies in the direction which it attempted to give to a universal human development of culture, ethics, and morality.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 8
6. Adolf Hitler: Personification of the Devil
....the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew.

- Adolf Hitler (following the position of Martin Luther), Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 11
7. Adolf Hitler: Christians Should Deal with Atheistic Jews
And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God; because then, as always, they used religion as a means of advancing their commercial interests. But at that time Christ was nailed to the Cross for his attitude towards the Jews; whereas our modern Christians enter into party politics and when elections are being held they debase themselves to beg for Jewish votes. They even enter into political intrigues with the atheistic Jewish parties against the interests of their own Christian nation.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 11
8. Adolf Hitler: As a Christian, I Feel that My Lord and Savior was a Fighter
My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. ...Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. ...

- Adolf Hitler, speech on April 12, 1922
Read the Full Quote
9. Adolf Hitler: Fascism is Closer to Christianity than Liberalism or Marxism
The fact that the Curia is now making its peace with Fascism shows that the Vatican trusts the new political realities far more than did the former liberal democracy with which it could not come to terms. ...The fact that the Catholic Church has come to an agreement with Fascist Italy ...proves beyond doubt that the Fascist world of ideas is closer to Christianity than those of Jewish liberalism or even atheistic Marxism...

- Adolf Hitler in an article in the Völkischer Beobachter, February 29, 1929, on the new Lateran Treaty between Mussolini's fascist government and the Vatican
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10. Adolf Hitler: Compromises with Atheism Destroy Religious, Ethical Values
By its decision to carry out the political and moral cleansing of our public life, the Government is creating and securing the conditions for a really deep and inner religious life. The advantages for the individual which may be derived from compromises with atheistic organizations do not compare in any way with the consequences which are visible in the destruction of our common religious and ethical values. The national Government sees in both Christian denominations the most important factor for the maintenance of our society. ...

- Adolf Hitler, speech before the Reichstag, March 23, 1933, just before the Enabling Act is passed.
Read the Full Quote
11. Adolf Hitler: Burn out the Poison of Immorality
Today Christians ... stand at the head of [this country]... I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past ... (few) years.

- Adolf Hitler, quoted in: The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872

Would you like to know more?

Go read Mein Kampf.

[JPCusick (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JPCusick

Link here = Anti-Islam filmmaker in hiding after protests - Yahoo! News

That declares: "An Israeli filmmaker" and "the 56-year-old intended his film to be a provocative political statement condemning the religion" and ""This is a political movie," said Bacile" and "who identifies himself as an Israeli Jew" and "cost $5 million to make and was financed with the help of more than 100 Jewish donors" and "Though Bacile was apologetic about the American who was killed as a result of the outrage over his film, he blamed lax embassy security" and "America should do something to change it" and "We went into this knowing this was probably going to happen," Klein said."

Originally Posted by JoeRider

It is starting to appear that the bombing was a terrorist attack not something to do with the movie.

The evidence points to the State of Israel being the one to have orchestrated the entire event of killing the disliked American Ambassador in Libya as another one of their infamous assassinations.

The link declares that the Israelis' knew of this and planned this as a political event.

Ambassador Stevens was a well liked friend to Libya while the State of Israel does not want any such friend to have empowered their enemy Libya.

The State of Israel has done other actions against our USA as like the USS Liberty, and Israel spying on the USA, and they do political assassinations as one of their expertise as they are known to kill individuals.

The Libyans liked our Ambassador Stevens, and the Al-Qaeda have always taken credit for what they do but not here in this case.

And we know at-that-time the Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu had a dispute with our President Obama telling him that Israel has some "moral right" to do whatever Israel wants to do, link HERE, just preceding the Ambassador's assassination.

The reports now say that the Libyan mob was out-of-control while the actual killing was well organized and precise, as in professional assassins.

Now the reports are trying to blame the Al-Qaeda, but if that were true that the Al-Qaeda is really that strong and effective in Libya as in Afghanistan and many other Countries then that would mean that the Al-Qaeda has grown into a very powerful and international force.

[MMM_donuts]

Originally Posted by Baja28

We don't have to stay in the last 12 years. We can go back the last 100 years. No christian in the last 100 yrs has killed because Jesus or a saint was insulted.

Is it merely insulting their saint (or whatever) or is it threatening their faith?


Why do people continue to push other's buttons like this? Everyone knows that these people take their religion so seriously (fanatically) that they kill over it and yet they continue to do things like make this video.

My personal opinion: if this is a result of some guy making an anti-Islam video then he is just as guilty as the actual murderers for knowingly inciting such a reaction. People died as a result of an action that he knew was not only possible but likely and he did it anyway. I hope he's satisfied with what he's done and the blood that's figuratively on his hands.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Hitler was a Christian. He was also white and he was German. In his view, white Christians were superior. Most all of us on here believe that whether we're willing to admit it or not and that shouldn't be a bad thing.

Hitler, then believed the best white Christians were also German.

You can't help your skin color and there should be no more wrong in being 'proud' of that than being 'proud' to be Asian or black or tan. It also doesn't hurt that whites used to rule the world so, there is certainly going to be a natural pride in that no less than an Arab being proud of the age when they dominated. Or an Italian when Rome ruled. Or an Asian when they had their day. Or, an Asian as they now regain superiority.

As for Christianity, why would anyone be one if they thought it wasn't superior to other choices?

As for German, national pride, that shouldn't be a shock either.

We like to disassociate from Hitler because he was insane and a mass murderer. And lost.

However, to the point; Hitler did kill for his faith. He also killed for his race and, primarily, his nation. We can not separate out any one of these. He killed to serve all three of those interests, Germany first and foremost. That's where he made most of his distinctions. The white race secondarily as the second most important thing and, a close third, Christianity.

If we're being all honest and stuff, we went to Iraq and Afghanistan to kill for our religion. And our nation. We, because we're America, have gotten, more than most, over the race issue. We're losing because we lost sight of that. Muslims haven't.

And that is why they are winning.

[Gilligan (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JPCusick

:The evidence points to the State of Israel being the one to have orchestrated the entire event of killing the disliked American Ambassador in Libya as another one of their infamous assassinations.

:

What "evidence" is that?


California man confirms role in anti-Islam film - Yahoo! News

[itsbob]

Originally Posted by MMM_donuts

I
My personal opinion: if this is a result of some guy making an anti-Islam video then he is just as guilty as the actual murderers for knowingly inciting such a reaction. People died as a result of an action that he knew was not only possible but likely and he did it anyway. I hope he's satisfied with what he's done and the blood that's figuratively on his hands.

He didn't DO anything...

He didn't KILL anybody...

And I would bet that not a single Muslim that attacked our embassies has even seen it.

This was an EXCUSE for killing a US Citizen and an EXCUSE to attack our embassies but the truth is the video has 100% NOTHING to do with it.

Putting the blame on an American "making fun" of their religion is exactly what they want you to do.. so we'll kowtow to their wants and needs every single time after.

Your argument would be like... "Sir, why did you kill him", "Well Judge, his third cousin twice removed on his mommy's side said my mama so fat her ass has it's own Zip Code!" "Sounds justifiable to me.. let him go!!".

[itsbob]

Originally Posted by JPCusick

The evidence points to the State of Israel being the one to have orchestrated the entire event of killing the disliked American Ambassador in Libya as another one of their infamous assassinations.

The link declares that the Israelis' knew of this and planned this as a political event.

Ambassador Stevens was a well liked friend to Libya while the State of Israel does not want any such friend to have empowered their enemy Libya.

The State of Israel has done other actions against our USA as like the USS Liberty, and Israel spying on the USA, and they do political assassinations as one of their expertise as they are known to kill individuals.

The Libyans liked our Ambassador Stevens, and the Al-Qaeda have always taken credit for what they do but not here in this case.

And we know at-that-time the Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu had a dispute with our President Obama telling him that Israel has some "moral right" to do whatever Israel wants to do, link HERE, just preceding the Ambassador's assassination.

The reports now say that the Libyan mob was out-of-control while the actual killing was well organized and precise, as in professional assassins.

Now the reports are trying to blame the Al-Qaeda, but if that were true that the Al-Qaeda is really that strong and effective in Libya as in Afghanistan and many other Countries then that would mean that the Al-Qaeda has grown into a very powerful and international force.

And of course you believe this moronic bullchit.. He may have been liked by SOME Libyans, but others he was just a tool to get what they wanted.. They won, they no longer needed him, he was just another infidel American.

And your last statement is true, has been for more than a decade.. where the hell have you been hiding?

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by MMM_donuts

My personal opinion: if this is a result of some guy making an anti-Islam video then he is just as guilty as the actual murderers for knowingly inciting such a reaction. People died as a result of an action that he knew was not only possible but likely and he did it anyway. I hope he's satisfied with what he's done and the blood that's figuratively on his hands.

Are you high? Are you stoned out of your freaking mind????

If you call me a violent jerk whose faith is a joke and I turn around and murder you for it, no sane person is going to blame you.

Sticks and stones. My god. We don't have free speech *as long as you don't hurt someones feelings or say something another may not like. We have FREE speech. You are NOT responsible for MY behavior and it is NOT up to me what you can and can't say unless and until it is a lie. Opinions are the essence of free speech.

Good lord. Are we this far gone, really????

[MMM_donuts]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Are you high? Are you stoned out of your freaking mind????

If you call me a violent jerk whose faith is a joke and I turn around and murder you for it, no sane person is going to blame you.

Sticks and stones. My god. We don't have free speech *as long as you don't hurt someones feelings or say something another may not like. We have FREE speech. You are NOT responsible for MY behavior and it is NOT up to me what you can and can't say unless and until it is a lie. Opinions are the essence of free speech.

Good lord. Are we this far gone, really????

No, I'm not high, I'm one of the people that has to defend this country when people do stuff like this. Isn't there some kind of euphemism for this kind of thing? Poking the bear?

I didn't say anything about holding him legally responsible for it or infringing on his "free" speech. I hope he is held morally responsible, that it rests on his conscience that he KNOWS how violent these people are and he directly contributed to that. He was a part of that. He did something that EVERYONE here KNOWS will lead to violence. And now people are dead because of it. Is it worth other people's lives to make fun of someone else's religion? If its so important to him then why doesn't he volunteer his own?