US ambassador 'killed in Libya'

[itsbob]

Originally Posted by Hank

I wear magic underwear!

So what fairy tale do you beileve in?

Not unlike the Jewish tallit katan (prayer shawl), these garments are worn underneath regular clothes. Temple garments serve as a personal reminder of covenants made with God to lead good, honorable, Christlike lives. The wearing of temple garments is an outward expression of an inward commitment to follow the Savior.
Biblical scripture contains many references to the wearing of special garments. In the Old Testament the Israelites are specifically instructed to turn their garments into personal reminders of their covenants with God (see Numbers 15:37-41). Indeed, for some, religious clothing has always been an important part of integrating worship with daily living. Such practices resonate with Latter-day Saints today.
Because of the personal and religious nature of the temple garment, the Church asks all media to report on the subject with respect, treating Latter-day Saint temple garments as they would religious vestments of other faiths. Ridiculing or making light of sacred clothing is highly offensive to Latter-day Saints.

So what hate filled article or document did you read that said their temple garments have "magical powers" and whcih beliefs do you have that are much better that would give you the right to make fun of theirs??

[Hank]

Originally Posted by itsbob

So what fairy tale do you beileve in?



So what hate filled article or document did you read that said their temple garments have "magical powers" and whcih beliefs do you have that are much better that would give you the right to make fun of theirs??

Do you wear magic underwear?

[MMDad]

Originally Posted by bcp

If you are talking about Joseph Smith of the Latter day Saints, then you are the one that might want to figure out why Joseph Smith would not be considered a Christian by normal standards.

If you are talking about some other Joseph Smith, try to be more specific because I am sure that through history, as rare as the names Joseph and Smith may be, there has to be a few of them out there.

as far as the smart ass response, I fail to see where my suggestion to show examples solicited such animosity on your part.

however, it would also be nice to stick to maybe 1900 and forward for the examples. and dont try to bring Westboro into it, they are false Christians hiding behind a Bible, and the protection of Religion in order to offend people to the point of getting a response they can sue for. Its about money, not gays for these people.

I'm not going to debate wether or not Mormons are Christian enough for you. That is not the point. Joseph smith was killed by Christians who shared your view that he was not Christian.

ETC said that Christians DO NOT kill people who disagree with them. History is full of examples of that being untrue. That was my only point - that there is no religion that does not have a fanatical fringe that is willing to kill.

ETC's logic was flawed.

[MMDad]

Originally Posted by JoeRider

And your point is? That Christians are promoting mass killing of non-Christians?

I bet there is at least one anecdotal killing of people for religious persecution throughout history for every religion.

I would also contend that much of the Crusades were more about governmental power plays using religion (the quasi government of the time) as justification.

My point is that ETC is wrong that Christians do not kill. Stop trying to read more into it.

[MMDad]

Originally Posted by MMM_donuts

So you advocate killing people in retaliation for killing people but condemn it as an unChristian act?

I don't think he can see his own hypocrisy. Very much like JPC.

[itsbob]

Originally Posted by Hank

Do you wear magic underwear?

I'm not mormon, why would I wear their temple garments?

But again, which religion go you believe in that is so much better than theirs?

[itsbob]

Originally Posted by bcp

Killing people is not a Christian act.

This is far from the truth..

John Lennon had this one right..

"Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today

.....


Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too

[nhboy (Premo)]

Originally Posted by MMDad

:ETC's logic was flawed.

Understated.

[Baja28 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by MMDad

Why limit this to the last 12 years? I'm not going back to the Crusades, but there are plenty of examples in more recent history.

Religious fanaticism is wrong no matter who does it, but to pretend that it is unique to muslims is just plain false.

We don't have to stay in the last 12 years. We can go back the last 100 years. No christian in the last 100 yrs has killed because Jesus or a saint was insulted.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by itsbob

This is far from the truth..

John Lennon had this one right..

"Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today

.....


Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too

If only Bill Maher and John Stewart and Chris Mathews and others would bring this up when talking about Islam, I could begin to respect their views. As it is, they are rather selective in which religions they mock.