Zimmerman/Martin Update

[JoeRider]

Not letting this one slip off the scene, here is a nice update from a previous police detective. Hey, remember Obama's beer summit. Kinda telling bout Obama, eh.



Good website with a summary of the latest. Overall a good website. Some of the stories told at this site has made me laugh pretty hard.:

The Trayvon Martin Case: Slow Rolling and Hypocrisy « Stately McDaniel Manor

Bottom line, the Prosecuting is stonewalling discovery information. An indicator that the Prosecutor has a weak case since his experience is that the Prosecutor loves to share information to show they have strong conviction details.


During my police days, I delighted in personally carrying feet-high stacks of reports and evidence directly to defense lawyers, and was happy to discuss things with them. Any prosecutor who would make the discovery process difficult is quite simply, suspect. Such actions do not speak of confidence, a strong case, or honorable personal or legal ethics.

If the self-defense hearing occurs in mid to late April as scheduled, the entire matter could easily end at that point. Knowing what we now know about the case, considering the testimony of the prosecution’s lead investigators, there is no evidence to effectively rebut Zimmerman’s account. That being the status quo, under Florida law there seems no other option but to dismiss all charges and to immunize Zimmerman from civil liability. As I’ve noted before, the political pressure on any judge to force a murder trial will be enormous. Expect public threats of riots and other civil unrest and outlandish media and political theater.

In the meantime, the pre-trial legal jousting will continue, and when matters build to the point that a new article is worthwhile, I’ll add to the SMM Martin Case archive.

[tom88]

If what I have seen so far proves to be true, (only those closest to the case really have all the facts) then I believe this case will be over. Of course, I didn't believe they could convict Drew Peterson either.

The prosecutors job is not to be an advocate for Trayvon, but be fair and impartial. If the facts are such that self defense is evident, then the prosecutor should have the fortitude to dismiss the charges and not have a person who can't be convicted stand trial.

On the other hand, if the prosecution feels there is evidence of wrong doing, even if it is a weak case, they have an obligation to proceed and let the triers of fact determine the outcome.

Having said that, with what I know, if I were the prosecutor I would not proceed to trial.

[Merlin99 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by tom88

If what I have seen so far proves to be true, (only those closest to the case really have all the facts) then I believe this case will be over. Of course, I didn't believe they could convict Drew Peterson either.

The prosecutors job is not to be an advocate for Trayvon, but be fair and impartial. If the facts are such that self defense is evident, then the prosecutor should have the fortitude to dismiss the charges and not have a person who can't be convicted stand trial.

On the other hand, if the prosecution feels there is evidence of wrong doing, even if it is a weak case, they have an obligation to proceed and let the triers of fact determine the outcome.

Having said that, with what I know, if I were the prosecutor I would not proceed to trial.

The prosecuters job is to prosecute, it's the judge and jury's job to be impartial. Facts be damned, the President thinks he's guilty, he will go to trial.

[itsrequired]

Originally Posted by Merlin99

The prosecuters job is to prosecute, it's the judge and jury's job to be impartial. Facts be damned, the President thinks he's guilty, he will go to trial.

I'd have to disagree with this statement. I have had several things brought to the prosecution where I felt there was probable cause, but not necessarily the facts to support a conviction. Sometimes there is probable cause for an arrest, but other mitigating circumstances reveal there is no reason to prosecute. That discretion and judgment falls on the prosecutor, not the judge, or jury.

[tom88]

Originally Posted by Merlin99

The prosecuters job is to prosecute, it's the judge and jury's job to be impartial. Facts be damned, the President thinks he's guilty, he will go to trial.

A prosecutor has an ethical obligation that if the evidence does not support the facts of the crime to dismiss the case. I can assure you that not every case in which a person gets arrested the person is then prosecuted. New evidence comes to light, or there is insufficient evidence to move forward.

[glhs837]

Hmmm, check out this newly released photo taken of Zimmerman from the night in question........ looks like a guy who was getting his azz beat....


George Zimmerman Photograph

[BigBlue]

Originally Posted by JoeRider

He was wrong about Henry Louis Gates, he was wrong about Libyan embassy attack, he is wrong about jobs and he is wrong about this.

You were wrong about the election, you were wrong about Romney and you are wrong about Unions and yes you are wrong about this.

[Lurk]

Originally Posted by BigBlue

You were wrong about the election, you were wrong about Romney and you are wrong about Unions and yes you are wrong about this.

Actually he's perfect correct in his assessments.

[MarieB]

A Letter from Zimmerman's brother





Michael, Thank you for reaching out and providing your email address. I am delighted to post this message publicly inthe interest of transparency and I must start by making clear that I am publishing this letter solely as a concerned Americanand not in my capacity as a representative of my family – The Zimmermans. I want to begin by sharing how proud I am to bean American and how grateful I am of the many rights and freedoms that we are afforded as Americans. Among these is ourfreedom of speech. It is a right central to the idea that a society in which its people can converse and express themselvesopenly is the very cornerstone of a truly free and enduring republic. If we are empowered by our freedom of speech by themany who sacrificed in order to secure it for us – we should be wise with our use of that power. I have every intention of respecting and defending anyfellow American’s right to speak openly. I have learned throughout this ordeal that the words we choose can and should wield influence to the people who hear them. It is why I strive to be responsible with my wordsand understand that we are all accountable for our words – especially when they harm others or incite harm to others.

Read more: George Zimmerman's Brother Writes Open Letter To GlobalGrind Editor-In-Chief Michael Skolnik | Global Grind

[struggler44]

Originally Posted by BigBlue

You were wrong about the election, you were wrong about Romney and you are wrong about Unions and yes you are wrong about this.

Would he be wrong if he referred to you as "douche" ?