Conflicting Reports about Sandy Hook's Firearms.

[mamatutu]

The whole guns debate is just so stupid. Weapons have been around since the beginning of time on Earth, starting with a stick or rock. Weapons will remain, and sadly, fall into the wrong hands; but, disarming people intentionally by law, and think that solves the problem is ludicrous, idiotic, mindless, etc. Do the people that support gun bans want the world to end sooner than it will? Do the fatcats in Washington DC think that they live in a bullet proof bubble? The insanity of politizing gun massacre tragedies is laughable, and the joke is on the politicians; well, I guess on us, but we know better. I liked Socky's thread today about the other weapons that should be banned. Sad, sad, state of affairs. Making guns harder to get for the law abiding citizen, makes it easier for the criminal to get them because they do it illegally, and they are laughing all the way to the next massacre. Let's just get it over with; increase entitlements so more people choose not to work, sit around and use taxpayer money to buy drugs so they are high all day, and then let them be the ones with arms, so they can just invade our homes, and not have to wait for the monthly check. Isn't it all about instant gratification? Ok, that's all.

[itsbob]

Originally Posted by BigBlue

Sorry to burst your bubble children but it was a Bushmaster,20 children ,one ten different times and six adults in a little over 8 mins.

A normal magazine for a bushmaster is 10 or 20 rounds, you can get bigger of course.

9mm semi-auto pistols hold up to 15, and you can also get extended magazines for them too.

Which one shoots faster? Which one is more accurate at ranges within a classroom?

Sooooo what expertise do you have that qualifies you as an expert to determine he used a Bushmaster without even being on the scene?

[blazinlow89]

Originally Posted by itsbob

Sooooo what expertise do you have that qualifies you as an expert to determine he used a Bushmaster without even being on the scene?

Because its a scary gun.

[BigBlue]

Originally Posted by itsbob

Sooooo what expertise do you have that qualifies you as an expert to determine he used a Bushmaster without even being on the scene?

Factual statments from authorities actually on the scene as oppose to a bunch wanna b's that shoot at deer maybe twice a year.

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Originally Posted by BigBlue

Factual statments from authorities actually on the scene as oppose to a bunch wanna b's that shoot at deer maybe twice a year.

Do provide.

[BigBlue]

Originally Posted by PsyOps

Do provide.

Officials: Newtown School Shooter Used High-Powered Rifle, Forced His Way Into School « CBS New York

nday night, police stood guard nonstop outside the Newtown home Lanza shared with his mother, Nancy Lanza.

She was an avid gun collector, shot four times in the head here before her son took her weapons and unleashed his horror at Sandy Hook Elementary School. His firepower included enough rounds of ammunition to kill all the students, and police believe he likely had bigger, even more gruesome plans.

“There was a lot of ammo, a lot of clips,” said Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance. “Certainly, a lot of lives were potentially saved.”

Connecticut State Police Lt. Paul Vance confirmed Sunday afternoon that Lanza had multiple high-capacity magazines for the rifle. He said it was too early to figure out how many shots had been fired, but he estimated the number in the hundreds.

Multiple shell casings and rounds were found at the scene, Vance said.

Law enforcement officials said Lanza used the .223 semiautomatic rifle to kill all the children and adults, and one of the two handguns he was carrying to kill himself. The third gun he carried into the school, another semi-automatic pistol, was still in his military-style cargo pants when his body was discovered, authorities said.

Officials also said given the presence of a fourth weapon in the trunk of his mother’s black Honda, Lanza was likely thinking of some kind of broader attack.

Residents were stunned that Lanza still had multiple clips, each with 30 bullets per capsule.

“I feel that we need to look at some of the laws and make adjustments,” said Diane Wilson.

Also Sunday, Gov. Dannel Malloy’s statement Sunday that the shooter decided to kill himself only when he heard first responders closing in after about 10 minutes of shootings.

Investigators checked out leads in dozens of gun stores and shooting ranges across Connecticut. Some officers were sidetracked responding to a phoned-in threat at St. Rose of Lima Church, and worshippers were evacuated mid mass.

Police searched and found nothing dangerous.

On Sunday night, some of focus continued to be on Lanza’s mother’s home, where inside the immaculately clean surroundings two computers were found smashed to pieces.

Meanwhile, as police combed through the gruesome and complex crime scene, the picture of what happened Friday at Sandy Hook Elementary School began to shift slightly.

It appears Lanza forced his way into the school using one of his weapons, CBS 2′s Lou Young reported.

“I can tell you it’s believed he was not voluntarily let into the school at all, that he forced his way into the school,” Vance said.

Two law enforcement sources told CBS News that Adam Lanza did attend Sandy Hook school at one time, but it remains unclear as to when and for how long.

A source briefed on the investigation told CBS News that Nancy Lanza was

Asked whether the children suffered, Carver said, “If so, not for very long.” Asked how many bullets were fired, Carver said, “I’m lucky if I can tell you how many I found.”

Parents identified the children through photos to spare them some shock, Carver said.

State police cautioned that there are imposters out there disseminating false information about the investigation.

“Social media websites that contain information related to this case are not being posted by the Connecticut State Police, are not being posted by the Newtown police,” Vance said.

There are even posts claiming to be from the gunman, Vance said. Those posted are being investigated for prosecution, Vance added.

Vance said anyone who abused social media in connection with the case will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Vance also said police would not be releasing details about the timeline of the shooting for some time as the investigation continues.

The rifle used was a Bushmaster .223-caliber, according to an official with knowledge of the investigation who was not authorized to speak about it and talked on condition of anonymity. The gun is commonly seen at competitions and was the type used in the 2002 sniper killings in the Washington, D.C., area. Also found in the school were two handguns, a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm.
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[Pushrod]

Originally Posted by BigBlue

Factual statments from authorities actually on the scene as oppose to a bunch wanna b's that shoot at deer maybe twice a year.

So there is actually conflicting reports and your biased mind is picking the ones that fit your narrative instead of waiting to see what facts the actual investigation brings out?

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Originally Posted by BigBlue

Officials: Newtown School Shooter Used High-Powered Rifle, Forced His Way Into School « CBS New York

Yes, we’ve all seen this. And there is new info coming out that may contradict this. I’m not doubting the report at all. What I’m doubting is that somehow this justifies banning any particular kind of firearm.

Wouldn’t you agree that Lanza could have killed just as many with his handguns? I have pointed to the Virginia Tech shooting as a example of proof. Seung-Hui Cho used a Glock 19 and a Walther P22. He killed 32 people. I’ve also pointed out (in another thread) that since Columbine there has been 29 ‘mass shootings’ of which 22 of them involved NOT ONE ‘assault’ rifle. Of those some used shot guns, but most were committed with pistols.

So why the focus on ‘assault’ rifles?

[thatguy]

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Originally Posted by PsyOps

Yes, we’ve all seen this. And there is new info coming out that may contradict this. I’m not doubting the report at all. What I’m doubting is that somehow this justifies banning any particular kind of firearm.

Wouldn’t you agree that Lanza could have killed just as many with his handguns? I have pointed to the Virginia Tech shooting as a example of proof. Seung-Hui Cho used a Glock 19 and a Walther P22. He killed 32 people. I’ve also pointed out (in another thread) that since Columbine there has been 29 ‘mass shootings’ of which 22 of them involved NOT ONE ‘assault’ rifle. Of those some used shot guns, but most were committed with pistols.

So why the focus on ‘assault’ rifles?

Is there a single report that lists a named authority who contradicts the earlier statements(made by the police and ME) that the bushmaster was the weapon used to kill everyone with the exception of the gunman

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Originally Posted by thatguy

Is there a single report that lists a named authority who contradicts the earlier statements(made by the police and ME) that the bushmaster was the weapon used to kill everyone with the exception of the gunman

I don't know. What does that have to do with my point? I already stated that I'm not disputing the initial reports. All I said was there are now conflciting reports. We'll know more as time goes on.

What I'm disputing is that the focus on military-style 'assault' rifles are the problem in these cases and those weapons need to be the center of attention. I pointed out that in the majority of cases of 'mass shootings' pistols were the weapon of choice.