Paging idiot BigBlue and other gun control freaks

[thatguy]

Originally Posted by warneckutz

Easy tough guy... Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeasy

you are the one name calling tough guy, i am just asking why.

[warneckutz]

Originally Posted by thatguy

you are the one name calling tough guy, i am just asking why.

Why so serious? *I'm* the one to get beat up if I show up to the event...

[thatguy]

Originally Posted by warneckutz

Why so serious? *I'm* the one to get beat up if I show up to the event...

Why did you feel the need to call me names?

[Baja28 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by thatguy

Why did you feel the need to call me names?

Awwwww.... he got hiw wittle fweewings hurt.

[Baja28 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Moved_south

Ok-- at the risk of having you guys beat me up.... can someone explain to me why banning assault rifles would be such a horrible thing? I am not trying to stir anyone up- am not pro or anti gun. I don't own one, but have no problem with those that do- more power to ya! What I don't get is why a normal person would NEED to own an assault rifle. Is it a matter of "well the criminals have 'em- so should I"? Is this a slippery slope kind of issue where government starts dictating what arms you can buy and what you can't until there is nothing left?

Again- please don't beat me to a pulp.... I admit I am not informed on statistics and semantics of any proposed ban. What I keep seeing and hearing about is a ban on assault rifles and am just wondering why anyone would want to own one in the first place.

First tell me what your definition of an assault rifle is? Which of these (if either) is an assault rifle and why?

[Moved_south]

Originally Posted by Baja28

First tell me what your definition of an assault rifle is? Which of these (if either) is an assault rifle and why?

I would define an assault rifle as one that holds a gazillion rounds and fires at a high rate of speed..... I am sure that is not the correct definition, but that is my layman, un-gun-educated view.

[aps45819]

Originally Posted by Moved_south

Ok-- at the risk of having you guys beat me up.... can someone explain to me why banning assault rifles would be such a horrible thing? I am not trying to stir anyone up- am not pro or anti gun. I don't own one, but have no problem with those that do- more power to ya! What I don't get is why a normal person would NEED to own an assault rifle. Is it a matter of "well the criminals have 'em- so should I"? Is this a slippery slope kind of issue where government starts dictating what arms you can buy and what you can't until there is nothing left?

Again- please don't beat me to a pulp.... I admit I am not informed on statistics and semantics of any proposed ban. What I keep seeing and hearing about is a ban on assault rifles and am just wondering why anyone would want to own one in the first place.

Why was the second amendment added to the constitution? We had just fought and won a war against the most powerful nation on earth. The only reason we won was we had the larger army in our armed citizens. As long as we can be armed no other nation will ever be able to conquer us. That will happen internally.


Assault rifles are already illegal.
An assault rifle is one that can be switched from semi automatic (one fire per trigger pull) to full automatic (one trigger pull fires all available ammunition).
Without a federal firearms license that requires an extensive background check and annual fees.

What they're talking about banning are semiautomatic rifles that have had cosmetic modifications.
Say you and your kid want to shoot a rifle. One with an adjustable stock length would allow both you and the kid to use the same weapon and adjust it as the child grows. Under the proposed ban, the rifle with different length stocks would be available but not with an adjustable stock.
It's just another stupid ineffective feel good proposal that our elected criminal rulers want to jam down the throats of law abiding citizens.

[aps45819]

Watch Red Dawn

[Baja28 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Moved_south

I would define an assault rifle as one that holds a gazillion rounds and fires at a high rate of speed..... I am sure that is not the correct definition, but that is my layman, un-gun-educated view.

Neither of those pictures I posted are assault rifles. In fact, they are the same caliber (.223) and fire at the same rate.

An assault rifle is a selective fire (either fully automatic or burst-capable) rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

Assault rifles are the standard service rifles in most modern armies. Assault rifles are categorized in between light machine guns, which are intended more for sustained automatic fire in a light support role, and submachine guns, which fire a pistol cartridge rather than a rifle cartridge.

So you see, regular Americans are already not allowed to own assault rifles unless they go through an exhaustive process and pay lots of money. Try to own one and let me know how that works out for ya.

The anti-gun idiots are trying to ban ordinary hunting rifles (pics I posted) by calling them assault rifles.

[thatguy]

Originally Posted by Baja28

Awwwww.... he got hiw wittle fweewings hurt.

my feelings arent hurt, i am calling him out on childish behavior, but why would i expect you to recognize that.

BTW, an assault weapon is what ever they define it as in the ban. Thats how it works. The previous ban was not limited to selective fire, those are already dealt with under the fully auto regs.
(she had already stipulated that she wasnt up on the semantics)

The term, assault weapon, when used in the context of assault weapon laws refers primarily (but not exclusively) to semi-automatic firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle that is fully automatic. Actually possessing the operational features, such as 'full-auto', changes the classification from assault weapons to Title II weapons. Merely the possession of cosmetic features is enough to warrant classification as an assault weapon. Semi-automatic firearms, when fired, automatically extract the spent cartridge casing and load the next cartridge into the chamber, ready to fire again. They do not fire automatically like a machine gun. Rather, only one round is fired with each trigger pull.[2]

In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of cosmetic features from the following list of features:


A semi-automatic Yugoslavian M70AB2 rifle.
An Intratec TEC-DC9 with 32-round magazine; a semi-automatic pistol formerly classified as an Assault Weapon under Federal Law.Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Folding or telescoping stock
Pistol grip
Bayonet mount
Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device that enables launching or firing rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those mounted externally).
Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia