US is using drones to executed Americans

[Misfit]

http://rt.com/usa/news/drone-kill-mcmahon-obama-245/

A federal judge issued a 75-page ruling on Wednesday that declares that the US Justice Department does not have a legal obligation to explain the rationale behind killing Americans with targeted drone strikes.

United States District Court Judge Colleen McMahon wrote in her finding this week that the Obama administration was largely in the right by rejecting Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and The New York Times for materials pertaining to the use of unmanned aerial vehicles to execute three US citizens abroad in late 2011.

[kwillia]

It's even worse than that... wait until glhs837 sees the speed control being implemented now...

[glhs837]

Originally Posted by kwillia

It's even worse than that... wait until glhs837 sees the speed control being implemented now...

That's okay, I'm an expert in countermeasures:)

[foodcritic]

Originally Posted by Misfit

http://rt.com/usa/news/drone-kill-mcmahon-obama-245/

A federal judge issued a 75-page ruling on Wednesday that declares that the US Justice Department does not have a legal obligation to explain the rationale behind killing Americans with targeted drone strikes.

United States District Court Judge Colleen McMahon wrote in her finding this week that the Obama administration was largely in the right by rejecting Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and The New York Times for materials pertaining to the use of unmanned aerial vehicles to execute three US citizens abroad in late 2011.

If your a citizen in a terrorist country working with the enemy who cares? Why does the left and some right care what a terrorist is doing in another country?? He is still an enemy of the US. I am missing the outrage here.

[Chris0nllyn]

Originally Posted by foodcritic

If your a citizen in a terrorist country working with the enemy who cares? Why does the left and some right care what a terrorist is doing in another country?? He is still an enemy of the US. I am missing the outrage here.

The Constitution maybe?

[foodcritic]

Originally Posted by GURPS

then he should be picked up and have a trial ?

if you cannot apprehend the individual, a trial in Absentia ? before a death sentence is handed down, maybe we should have just executed McVeay on the side of the road ?


where do you draw the line -

Terrorist Over Seas = Execute without Trial
Terrorist State Side = Execute without Trial [after it is cleaner if they just disappear? - Worked for Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Min]

Sure Treason used to Garner a maximum punishment of Death .........

This has nothing to do with what goes on IN OUR country as far as I am concerned. I would agree they have protections under the constitution in NORMAL circumstances. Criminals in our country are killed during violent police contact with out a trial (obviously). They are engaged in warfare (in another country). By default they have renounced their citizenship and their legal protections. Clearly they can not be taking in to custody to afford them their rights. If your are volunteering to go apprehend them, I am sure the US gov would provide a good bounty. IMO

[migtig]

I don't understand how foreign citizens deemed terrorists are captured and given trials in the US with the full rights of an American citizen on trial, while American citizens are not entitled to the same.

Explain to me how a US citizen is not entitled to their rights, when non-US citizens are.

[Chris0nllyn]

Originally Posted by migtig

I don't understand how foreign citizens deemed terrorists are captured and given trials in the US with the full rights of an American citizen on trial, while American citizens are not entitled to the same.

Explain to me how a US citizen is not entitled to their rights, when non-US citizens are.

Example? I'm not following you?

As far as I know, ever american citizen, whether they live in the Us or not, has the right to due process.

Something that can't be said for Anwar Al-Awlaki, and his 16 year old son.

[migtig]

Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn

Example? I'm not following you?

As far as I know, ever american citizen, whether they live in the Us or not, has the right to due process.

Something that can't be said for Anwar Al-Awlaki, and his 16 year old son.

I'm not following you.

This tread is about the drone killings of Americans abroad. That means they weren't captured and given a trial, just executed.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was given a trial. Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was given a trail. There's more.

So again, somebody explain to me, why it's okay to given foreign terrorists a trial and not American citizens.

[itsbob]

Originally Posted by Chris0nllyn

Example? I'm not following you?

As far as I know, ever american citizen, whether they live in the Us or not, has the right to due process.

Something that can't be said for Anwar Al-Awlaki, and his 16 year old son.

What was his 16 year old son guilty of??

I think you are both saying the same thing..

AL-Awlaki was never tried, nor found guilty nor sentenced by a judge or jury.. but was still summarily executed by one person.