Remember Discussing Smart Meters?

[somdfunguy]

Originally Posted by JoeRider

One other area that is of interest to me is that I know some people that have energy sources (like solar) that actually puts energy back on the grid how does the Smart Meters handle that?

im sure it is smart enough to figure it out

[Salvador]

Originally Posted by JoeRider

Put me on ignore if you don't like what I have to say. You make a statement, "Smart Meters are bad" back it up. It is obvious that you are too lazy to and just want to spout.

I usually post references and links to the things I post. No need for you do to a search, just to backup what you say.



You brought 3 issues up, Against Smart Meters, the appliance regulating device and private property.

Are you just spouting or are you offering to discuss it. You started this thread.

Do you speak like you type, Troll?

[bcp (Premo)]

since it is constantly broadcasting, just cover it with foil a few times a day for an hour or so, it will trigger an equipment failure back at the utility company and they will have to send someone out to check on it.
of course, when they get there you dont have foil on it so they find nothing wrong,, then as they leave, run out and start over.

get your monies worth out of them


by the way, many people that had them installed have seen their bills go up almost double. The power company says its because the old meter was not accurate.

[GURPS (Premo)]

Originally Posted by bcp

since it is constantly broadcasting, just cover it with foil a few times a day for an hour or so, it will trigger an equipment failure back at the utility company and they will have to send someone out to check on it.

why not use power lines to communicate instead of wifi

interesting .....

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by GURPS

why not use power lines to communicate instead of wifi

interesting .....

because the idea is that it communicates with your neighbors meters too, it then compares usage and averages out specific areas letting the power company know when power drops can be acceptable.
and, in order to create their own network, they are setting up receivers in various locations to pick up the meters information and transmit it back to the main office.
hard line would make it easier to disable, and using existing wifi would require paying useage to whatever internet provider covers the area in question.

so, tin foil it off and on and trigger repair tickets. burn up their man hours and make it look like the meters are not worth keeping.

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JoeRider

If the meters are addressable, it seems to not make sense to use wifi when the infrastructure is on the line.

What kinda range do these meters have? My guess is it sends it though the power line.

Collectors
Each day, this hourly information is sent by wireless connection or through telephone or power lines to a data collector located in your neighbourhood.

How Your Smart Meter Works

You bold one, I will bold the other.
which one is used on my home? (since you seem to have inside information)

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JoeRider

So if it is wireless, what technology is it using - cell? Where are the receivers located?

really??? with wireless today you have to ask this???
what if their wireless is propriatary and the units talk to each other and report to a universal contact point

to get accurate reading through the existing lines would require extra unused pairs of wires.. are those out there already? do I have pairs of wires that are not used for them to hook up and down load this information from>

[czygvtwkr]

Originally Posted by bcp

really??? with wireless today you have to ask this???
what if their wireless is propriatary and the units talk to each other and report to a universal contact point

to get accurate reading through the existing lines would require extra unused pairs of wires.. are those out there already? do I have pairs of wires that are not used for them to hook up and down load this information from>

No, just like DSL over the phone line the signal would be a different frequency than the frequency of the power and the two different frequencies would be separated via a discriminator back at the host site.

[czygvtwkr]

Originally Posted by bcp

not only that but once its in full force, the electrical signatures of the equipment in the home can be detected and used to determine when you are home or not, or in the shower or cooking, running the a/c and even if you have an alarm system that is set or not.

but, besides all that, obama and owemalley think they are a good idea, so they have to be bad for the country.

This is horse ####, there is very little that can be figured out by power being drawn from a source beyone how much power it uses, certianly not enough to tell if my TV or my Wii is on. And even this could be masked easily enough.

[czygvtwkr]

Originally Posted by JoeRider

But what about the alum. foil?

Aluminum isn't the best blocker of RF signals, expecially that thin. If I were to do this I would look for some copper or another high moleculear weight metal. A jammer would be much more effective, chances are SMECO would never be able to figure that out.