Boy Scouts ending ban on gay members, leaders

[MMDad]

Originally Posted by JoeRider

Really, that is news to me. So Hank, oh, I mean MMDad, since you seem to believe this, I guess I can make up crap about you being on the sex offenders register. I think I remember you saying something about one night when you were drunk. Didn't sockgirl call you Chester the Molester or something like that?

Yes Penn, you did admit it. So I saw you in the place you work at now. Just as skeevy and pervy as ever. Makes you realize that you can't really know that anywhere is safe, or that there might be some binocular using freak behind the counter.

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by MMDad

I knew you weren't capable of honesty. Go on with your bad self. By the way, if you notice my position all along has been to try to educate you about how BSA works and to express my opinion that the Charter Organization be allowed to decide for themselves who can be a leader instead of that being decided on a national level. You are so blinded by your hate that you failed to follow the actual issue being discussed.

It's hard to notice anything because it's all covered up by your big mouth and anger! Get off my back and stick to the topic. You post things that I've never said, so I said: you obviously cannot follow along. You're an angry man and, if you weren't so judgmental and would stop jumping to conclusions, you'd see that I know how they work.

Originally Posted by huntr1

No. So long as the gay person is in the closet, they are allowed to be a leader. However, once they come out, they are considered to be in violation of the Scout Oath and Law. When you apply to be a leader, you sign a statement that you will live according to the Scout Oath and Law. Once out, you are now in violation of the membership agreement and thus inelligible to be a scouter (adult member of the BSA). As for youth, if a youth comes out, he/she is not kicked out of the BSA. However, (s)he is considered to be in violation of the Scout Oath and Law and thus inelligible to hold a position of responsibility (leadership) in his/her troop or crew. If you cannot hold a postion of responsibility, then you cannot advance in rank. If you cannot advance, you normally drop out shortly thereafter. So, under current rules, openly gay youth are allowed, they just cannot be in a position of responsiblity and thus cannot advance and thus normally drop out. Openly gay adults are not allowed.

And this is why I said that it could be a problem. Once they are found out, they'll protest or sue because they cannot become leaders. Instead of changing and following the Scout Laws, they'll say it's discrimination and want the laws to change to fit their agenda.

A gay person can be "physically strong & mentally awake" but not "morally straight"...

Originally Posted by Hessian

Lesson One:
Gays have higher rates of depression & suicide
Lesson Two:
Gays cause great amount of family distress when they "come out."
Lesson Three:
Many Gays admit to pursuing that lifestyle after being molested as boys.
Lesson 4
Gays are dying in much greater numbers due to higher exposure to STDs & Aids.
Lesson 5
Treatment of Gays for medically-preventable diseases is in the hundreds of Millions of $$.
Lesson 6
Average lifespan of an active homosexual is at least 20 years shorter than heterosexual.
Lesson 7
DVD of the LGBT parade in San Francisco

Lesson 3 would prove the gay advocates on here wrong because it shows that it isn't inborn...

Originally Posted by Radiant1

Your so-called form of education exacerbates ignorance; this is part of the problem.

Who'se ignorant here? Wanna take Gods' side for a change?

[MMDad]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

It's hard to notice anything because it's all covered up by your big mouth and anger! Get off my back and stick to the topic. You post things that I've never said, so I said: you obviously cannot follow along. You're an angry man and, if you weren't so judgmental and would stop jumping to conclusions, you'd see that I know how they work.

That's a joke, right? You calling anyone judgmental has to be a joke.

Good one IS. You had me laughing here.

By the way, if I quote your words it is what you said. Try a little honesty here.

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by MMDad

That's a joke, right? You calling anyone judgmental has to be a joke.

Good one IS. You had me laughing here.

By the way, if I quote your words it is what you said. Try a little honesty here.

How's the "Holier than thou" shirt fitting now? You are amazingly blind.

[cricketmd]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

How's the "Holier than thou" shirt fitting now? You are amazingly blind.

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by cricketmd

Shouldn't you be learning your Bible better?

[sockgirl77 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JoeRider

This is getting good Hank, tell me more.

I'll tell you more. You're the only person on this forum that I've ever felt uncomfortable around. You ooze creepiness. Oh and I'm not the first person to say this. Several forum women have said this. And from what I've heard, several of your previous coworkers have said the same as well.

[thatguy]

Wirelessly posted

Originally Posted by sockgirl77

I'll tell you more. You're the only person on this forum that I've ever felt uncomfortable around. You ooze creepiness. Oh and I'm not the first person to say this. Several forum women have said this. And from what I've heard, several of your previous coworkers have said the same as well.

You have to be a pretty big perv to make socki uncomfortable, and I don't mean that as a shot at sockgirl (for the first time ever)

Tell me some more

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JoeRider

This is getting good Hank, tell me more.

MMDad and Hank are not the same

[sockgirl77 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by thatguy

Wirelessly posted



You have to be a pretty big perv to make socki uncomfortable, and I don't mean that as a shot at sockgirl (for the first time ever)

Tell me some more

True statement.