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Old 02-20-2013, 11:52 AM   #1
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As officials tell it, Saylor had been watching “Zero Dark Thirty” at a Frederick movie theater last month and, as soon as it ended, wanted to watch it again. When he refused to leave, a theater employee called three off-duty Frederick County sheriff’s deputies who were working a security job at the Westview Promenade shopping center and told them that Saylor either needed to buy another ticket or be removed.
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Cpl. Jennifer Bailey, a spokeswoman for the sheriff’s office, said Saylor cursed at the deputies, who weren’t wearing uniforms, and began hitting and kicking them. The deputies restrained him using three sets of handcuffs linked together and escorted him from the theater. At some point, Saylor ended up on the ground and began showing signs of medical distress. A short while later, he was pronounced dead at a local hospital.
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Late last week, the Chief Medical Examiner’s Office in Baltimore ruled Saylor’s death a homicide as a result of asphyxia.
Md. man with Down syndrome who died in police custody loved law enforcement - The Washington Post

How sad.
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:45 PM   #2
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Saylor was in the theater with an aide, and his mother could have been called.
So why didn't the "aide" call his mother? Or better yet, buy him another ticket for the movie?
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So why didn't the "aide" call his mother? Or better yet, buy him another ticket for the movie?
I believe it was the last showing, and they were closing.
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I believe it was the last showing, and they were closing.
If you read the original post you will see where the theater employee said he either had to leave or buy another ticket. Was probably NOT the last showing!
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:15 PM   #5
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If you read the original post you will see where the theater employee said he either had to leave or buy another ticket. Was probably NOT the last showing!
Ok. I've read other articles that don't say that.

Who cares if it was last show or not? This guy was suffocated to death.
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Ok. I've read other articles that don't say that.

Who cares if it was last show or not? This guy was suffocated to death.
You seem to be implying the police purposely suffocated him and I don't see anything that lets me draw this conclusion... hell it could have been a piece of popcorn or gum that he inhaled down his windpipe. How are you able to blame police for his suffocation without any information other than "he suffocated"...
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:31 PM   #7
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You seem to be implying the police purposely suffocated him and I don't see anything that lets me draw this conclusion... hell it could have been a piece of popcorn or gum that he inhaled down his windpipe. How are you able to blame police for his suffocation without any information other than "he suffocated"...
How, exactly am I implying the Police purposely suffocated him?

All we know is that his death was ruled a homicide via suffocation. That didn't happen until the police removed him from the theater. Gum, or popcorn stuck in your throat is not a homicide.

There's such thing as positional asphyxia. That's when someone's position inhibits them from breathing. This can, and has, happened when police restrain a person in a face down position.
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:36 PM   #8
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How, exactly am I implying the Police purposely suffocated him?

All we know is that his death was ruled a homicide via suffocation. That didn't happen until the police removed him from the theater. Gum, or popcorn stuck in your throat is not a homicide.

There's such thing as positional asphyxia. That's when someone's position inhibits them from breathing. This can, and has, happened when police restrain a person in a face down position.
Reading the article, it took 3 pairs of handcuffs to restrain him, which leads me to believe this guy was pretty big. He was also kicking the police and fighting back, which leads me to believe it took more than one officer to subdue him.

I guess now the police should just take their lickings and not try to subdue someone that is threatening to do them bodily harm or even kill them.

I would call this an unfortunate accident. Sad story, but I really doubt the police were trying to kill the guy.
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Reading the article, it took 3 pairs of handcuffs to restrain him, which leads me to believe this guy was pretty big. He was also kicking the police and fighting back, which leads me to believe it took more than one officer to subdue him.

I guess now the police should just take their lickings and not try to subdue someone that is threatening to do them bodily harm or even kill them.

I would call this an unfortunate accident. Sad story, but I really doubt the police were trying to kill the guy.
Again, no one is saying the police were trying to kill him!
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You seem to be implying the police purposely suffocated him and I don't see anything that lets me draw this conclusion... hell it could have been a piece of popcorn or gum that he inhaled down his windpipe. How are you able to blame police for his suffocation without any information other than "he suffocated"...
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