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Old 10-19-2004, 08:08 PM   #31 (permalink)
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We’ve discussed this elsewhere and one of my favorites was to make it a spectator sport using a gallows 50 or so feet tall and a piano-wire noose at the end of 15 feet of rope. Have the gallows ringed at various ranges and marked off in azimuth and allow betting for where the head first hits the ground. I think it would make a hit on pay-per-view.

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Old 10-19-2004, 08:13 PM   #32 (permalink)
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You know what's even funnier about this idea? A few years back, the ACLU brought suit against a prison in Alabama, I think(one of the southern states) for requiring inmates to work on a "chaingang", they called it "cruel and inhuman punishment". Imagine that!

What would they do if we tried to reinstate public hanging?

I got it HANG THEM TOO

Hagerstown was a farm prison that was self supporting.
but nooooooo some folks of color cryed It's slavery.
At least they was tought to do a honest days work
instead of selling crack and there sisters

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Old 10-19-2004, 09:46 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Since the dawn of the age of man, society has seen fit to "weed out" those who do not take life seriously.
I don't trust society to do that. That typically gets twisted into crusades against political or religous unorthodoxy. One reason I don't believe there should be any orthodoxy when it comes to politics or religion, meaning that institutions shouldn't tell individuals what to think or what to believe.
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Old 10-19-2004, 09:55 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Instead of the death penalty, I would rather see lifetime solitary incarceration for first-degree murder, with no chance of parole and no interaction with the outside world.

In fact, I want to see all prisons changed to solitary cells. Why allow the prisoners to interact with one another?
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Old 10-19-2004, 10:02 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I'm pretty much for the death penalty in every way, shape and form. If your sent to prison you should be treated as the shun of a society. Very little interaction with your fellow prisoners, eat crap food, no entertainment, no weights. I do think the education aspect should be left alone. Do you want the idiots going into the system coming out more of an idiot than before?

As I said before I'm all for the death penalty. If you are convicted of taking anothers life you should pay the ultimate price your victim paid. You say it is not up to us to judge who should die or not. Was it right for the convicted to judge who he/she murdered?
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Old 10-19-2004, 10:27 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I'm pretty much for the death penalty in every way, shape and form. If your sent to prison you should be treated as the shun of a society. Very little interaction with your fellow prisoners, eat crap food, no entertainment, no weights. I do think the education aspect should be left alone. Do you want the idiots going into the system coming out more of an idiot than before?

As I said before I'm all for the death penalty. If you are convicted of taking anothers life you should pay the ultimate price your victim paid. You say it is not up to us to judge who should die or not. Was it right for the convicted to judge who he/she murdered?
Excellent theorizing, BL!

Your first paragraph holds much meaning, but I don't know if you're aware how true that is:
Many cons, who are in for an extended period of stay, have been alowed into prison libraries, have actually gained the knowledge of a trial lawyer, and attempted to have their cases overturned, claiming evidence that was not presented in a timely manner, or have "invented" evidence, and maybe a few have gained their freedom, because of the loopholes in our criminal laws.

The second paragraph is the old "eye for an eye,..................., but I think it still has meaning.

Today, they say "Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.
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Old 10-20-2004, 09:44 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Many cons, who are in for an extended period of stay, have been alowed into prison libraries, have actually gained the knowledge of a trial lawyer, and attempted to have their cases overturned, claiming evidence that was not presented in a timely manner, or have "invented" evidence, and maybe a few have gained their freedom, because of the loopholes in our criminal laws.
Why do prisons even have libraries in the first place? My prison design--no common areas, no courtyards, no TVs or books, no cafeteria. You stay in your solitary cell 24-7, and if your crime was first-degree murder, your cell has no windows.
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Old 10-20-2004, 10:33 AM   #38 (permalink)
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As long as there are bleeding heart judges, the term 'life without parole' is meaningless.
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Old 10-20-2004, 04:03 PM   #39 (permalink)
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I'm against the death penalty for one simple reason. I feel our criminal justice system is too imperfect to hand out death as a punishment. Too many people have walked off death row after additional evidence was found proving their innocence.

In my opinion, killing an innocent person is murder. It doesn't matter what legal definitions you have in place, how many precautions you take, or how sure you are of their guilt. When you participate in an innocent persons death, you are a murderer.

I'm not willing to excuse societies participation in the deaths of innocent people simple because they make a few laws saying its alright. When someone is dead, its way to late to say your sorry for making a mistake.
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Old 10-20-2004, 05:00 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Why do prisons even have libraries in the first place? My prison design--no common areas, no courtyards, no TVs or books, no cafeteria. You stay in your solitary cell 24-7, and if your crime was first-degree murder, your cell has no windows.
Tonio, in a word it's called rehabilitation.

Not only are cons supposed to be able to learn from the failings of their misgivings - their crimes, they are encouraged to mentally advance themselves with available resources,

Found where, you ask? The Prison Library!

Many cons also have access to PCs, like the one you're operating; no doubt some of the SPAM and junk mail we all receive may be coming from inside prison walls.

Hell, if they can gain the knowledge of a trial lawyer, they can sure obtain the intricate understanding of PC operations!

Kinda scary, huh?
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