Crying it out

[cattitude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Speedy70

It's not that she was mean, it's just more things are known now about how babies work. I mean, babies at two weeks old are crying for a reason. They are not crying to manipulate. I'm sure my mom let me cry it out at a young age too. Heck, she fed me cereal at two weeks (with a spoon).

Okay, I guess I sound mean. I think people are writing more books, etc. about babies because people buy this crap trying to do the very best for their kids. People are having babies later in life and I honestly think they "think too much" about raising their kids. I see it here with the attorneys I work with.

Sure seems there are more kids these days that are self-centered, need to be entertained, etc. and they have a lot more develomental issues.

[Chasey_Lane]

Originally Posted by Speedy70

It's not that she was mean, it's just more things are known now about how babies work. I mean, babies at two weeks old are crying for a reason. They are not crying to manipulate. I'm sure my mom let me cry it out at a young age too. Heck, she fed me cereal at two weeks (with a spoon).

I don't believe in all that sissyfication stuff today. My mom let me cry and I let my daughter cry. At two weeks old, babies cry because they can and they don't know any better. They cry, you pick them up, they get used to it. I decided to break the habit w/my daughter before it started.

[Chasey_Lane]

Originally Posted by cattitude

Okay, I guess I sound mean.

Welcome to the club.

Crying it out 01-14-2008 12:42 PM They want comfort, you asshat. THAT's why they cry.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Speedy70

They are not crying to manipulate.

Babies don't cry to manipulate - they don't have the sophisticated thought process to accomplish that. They are cause-and-effect creatures: they are unhappy about something; Mommy rockles them and they feel better. Pretty simple stuff.

But I don't agree that the "experts" know any more about babies than our cave woman ancestors did. None of the new techniques work any better than the old ones - they just make you feel like an idiot because they present a "simple solution" that apparently everyone in the world can master except for you.

And that is a general "you", not specifically you, Speedy. Because those books things never worked for me either.

[Cowgirl]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Babies don't cry to manipulate - they don't have the sophisticated thought process to accomplish that. They are cause-and-effect creatures: they are unhappy about something; Mommy rockles them and they feel better. Pretty simple stuff.

But I don't agree that the "experts" know any more about babies than our cave woman ancestors did. None of the new techniques work any better than the old ones - they just make you feel like an idiot because they present a "simple solution" that apparently everyone in the world can master except for you.

And that is a general "you", not specifically you, Speedy. Because those books things never worked for me either.

I'm willing to bet cavewomen treated their babies similarly to how primates treat their babies. They're always carrying their babies around. I don't think a momma chimp thinks, "I'm not going to let my baby manipulate me."

[cattitude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Cowgirl

I'm willing to bet cavewomen treated their babies similarly to how primates treat their babies. They're always carrying their babies around. I don't think a momma chimp thinks, "I'm not going to let my baby manipulate me."

Yeah, but the cave women fixed dinner, cleaned the cave, etc. all with the kid in tow.

I worked, I didn't have the luxury of staying home so my kids had to bend to my schedule..it was just a necessity and I didn't think much about it. My oldest had reflux, puked all the time. My second one had apnea and was on a monitor for 8 months. I just didn't give things much of a thought because I had to work and it's just the way it was.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Cowgirl

I'm willing to bet cavewomen treated their babies similarly to how primates treat their babies. They're always carrying their babies around. I don't think a momma chimp thinks, "I'm not going to let my baby manipulate me."

You're onto something here.

Back in the day, the baby was joined to the mother until it was old enough to walk. Ma went out to pick beans and the baby rode along in a sling over her shoulder. Now everybody's oh so busy and can't have a pesky baby cramping their style. So "experts" started writing these weird books telling you how to cut the apron strings on a 4 month old.

Anyway, it doesn't hurt babies to fuss a bit - good for their lungs, as my Grannie used to say. But I'm not a huge fan of letting them scream and get all worked up.

[Cowgirl]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

You're onto something here.

Back in the day, the baby was joined to the mother until it was old enough to walk. Ma went out to pick beans and the baby rode along in a sling over her shoulder. Now everybody's oh so busy and can't have a pesky baby cramping their style. So "experts" started writing these weird books telling you how to cut the apron strings on a 4 month old.

Anyway, it doesn't hurt babies to fuss a bit - good for their lungs, as my Grannie used to say. But I'm not a huge fan of letting them scream and get all worked up.

My sister "wears" her baby alot of the times. Of course, she can't do it all the time, but it helps when the baby is fussy and she has to get work done...or when she's out shopping. She has a sling similar to the one in the pic.

[Speedy70]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Anyway, it doesn't hurt babies to fuss a bit - good for their lungs, as my Grannie used to say. But I'm not a huge fan of letting them scream and get all worked up.

When I put my little boy down for his naps (drowsy, but awake), he screams his head off. He gets red splotches all over and starts sweating like crazy. He doesn't do that at night - just naps.

He's going to his pediatrician today because it seems he's caught the cold that I had last week. I will discuss his nap issues then.

[Speedy70]

Originally Posted by Cowgirl

My sister "wears" her baby alot of the times. Of course, she can't do it all the time, but it helps when the baby is fussy and she has to get work done...or when she's out shopping. She has a sling similar to the one in the pic.

I have a baby Bjorn. I had a Hot Sling, but it was too awkward getting him out of it (and in it, for that matter).