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Old 05-26-2007, 08:46 AM   #1
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Theory Of Gun Control Meets Reality Of Crime

In the interest of full disclosure, this is an NRA release. The original Plain Dealer article is linked below, as is a link to the predictable responses from people who oppose the right to carry:

"A May 15 story in The Plain Dealer (Cleveland, Ohio) serves as a good reminder of how a person’s support for gun control often changes after a personal experience with crime.

"State Representative Michael DeBose (D-12) of Cleveland was an opponent of Right-to-Carry, having voted against the measure twice. All that changed on the night of May 1, when he was confronted by two men, one of whom was wielding a gun. On that night, Rep. DeBose’s sense of security in his neighborhood changed, as did his view on lawful citizens being able to defend themselves.

"Rep. DeBose was lucky—this time—that his running, screaming, and summons for help prevented him from being harmed. When asked how this recent experience may change the prism through which he views Right-to-Carry, Rep. DeBose was crystal clear: 'I was wrong. I'm going to get a permit and so is my wife. I've changed my mind. You need a way to protect yourself and your family. I don't want to hurt anyone. But I never again want to be in the position where I'm approached by someone with a gun and I don't have one. There are too many people who are just evil and mean-spirited. They will hurt you for no reason. If more people were packing guns, it might serve as a deterrent.'

"We welcome Rep. DeBose to the growing list of Right-to-Carry converts. While it is too bad it took a life-threatening situation to convert him, we hope he will share his experience, and his newfound respect for the right to self-defense, with his other colleagues who still don’t get it. It is our hope they won’t have to endure a similar experience to do so."


Run-in changes lawmaker's stance

http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaind...560.xml&coll=2

Lawmaker who's packin' doesn't solve a thing

http://www.cleveland.com/letters/pla...080.xml&coll=2

To me, it's common sense. The only ones who obey gun-control laws are those who respect the law in the first place. Gun control ensures that the only ones with guns are the criminals. Law-abiding citizens have a constitutional and practical right to defend themselves against those who don't abide by the law, and our elected officials should defend that right. That's my belief.

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Old 05-26-2007, 09:13 AM   #2
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It's not...

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To me, it's common sense. The only ones who obey gun-control laws are those who respect the law in the first place. Gun control ensures that the only ones with guns are the criminals. Law-abiding citizens have a constitutional and practical right to defend themselves against those who don't abide by the law, and our elected officials should defend that right. That's my belief.

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...any more complex or difficult to explain than that. Never has been. Never will be.


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Old 05-26-2007, 11:09 AM   #3
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Good post. Maybe we need to put all of our Congressional Representatives into parts of the city where they will run into similar situations. We'll have a whole bunch of converts.
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More guns on the street has never made society a safer place. Never has and never will.
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:51 AM   #5
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Good post. Maybe we need to put all of our Congressional Representatives into parts of the city where they will run into similar situations. We'll have a whole bunch of converts.
...you mean the congressional representatives with their own police force, those ones?
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Old 05-26-2007, 11:53 AM   #6
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You ever been attacked?

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More guns on the street has never made society a safer place. Never has and never will.
...you ever been robbed? Ever been car jacked? Ever do anyone of those things to someone else?

I'm just curious.
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Old 05-26-2007, 12:07 PM   #7
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More guns on the street has never made society a safer place. Never has and never will.
That may or may not be the case depending on where you look... but there's one thing that's damn certain - taking guns off the streets in Washington D.C. and New York City hasn't made the streets any safer either. So I guess what it all comes down to is if you, personally, want to be safe.
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More guns on the street has never made society a safer place. Never has and never will.
Plain fact is, taking guns away from the law abiding citizen hasn't made it any more safe either. How about we try it the other way. Give guns to the law abiding citizens, shoot more criminals, and maybe we'll be a little safer. Do you think maybe more dead criminals might equal more live citizens?
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More guns on the street has never made society a safer place. Never has and never will.
Could you provide a source for this information? It goes against common sense, so I'm sure you're relating to a study performed or something.....
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More guns on the street has never made society a safer place. Never has and never will.
Actually it has... spent some time in Florida in the 80's post-carry enactment. Made areas you'd never think of walking in after dark nice and safe throughout the night.
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