I've never seen the media...

[Pete (Premo)]

Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

Except for the fact that the media got on board and turned this into something Obama said and did.

We have civil rights. There are multiple people who deserve praise for it, as it was not one man and one man alone who made it happen. It's 40 years later. Not a campaign issue.

My beef is not with Clinton or Obama, it's with the leftist media who would've : if any Republican had said that. Why do I say that? Because they have.

The issue is over, the media needs to discuss what's happening here in the 21st Century.

No one argues the media isn't left leaning. The quote happened last week and it has been commented on by "black leaders" so it did happen in this century. It is news and it may cost Clinton votes in SC. The point is reaching that far down to bust on Hillary for a quote that even when taken out of context isn't that bad, and the "mysterious memo" does make Obama and his campaign look like race baiters.

Unfortunately candidates not only do themselves in with a misspoken quote, a spin of their words or parsing their staffers and supporters screw them too and the media is right there to dance on their graves.

This is a non-issue.

[AndyMarquisLIVE (Premo)]

I agree it's a non-issue. The memo means nothing to me. Hillary's remarks mean nothing to me. It's the same thing as if I e-mailed a bulletin to a couple co-workers suggesting that we work late a couple nights to get stuff caught up. No biggie.

There's a lot of people working in a campaign and one teeny tiny memo doesn't mean a whole lot, just another thing for the media to about when you are not the candidate they support (CBS Evening News, 2004).

If the media was really trying to destroy her campaign like she claims, they'd just loop her comments about liberating women.

[Pete (Premo)]

Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

I agree it's a non-issue. The memo means nothing to me. It's the same thing as if I e-mailed a bulletin to a couple co-workers suggesting that we work late a couple nights to get stuff caught up. No biggie.

There's a lot of people working in a campaign and one teeny tiny memo doesn't mean a whole lot, just another thing for the media to about when you are not the candidate they support (CBS Evening News, 2004).

There have been a lot of candidates fatally damaged by "memo's" leaked to the public by staffers.

Part of the problem here is the MSM through the years has created a giant suck hole for bona fide news so they fill that vacuum with ANYTHING they think will fill the void.

The Clinton's have always been media darlings on top of being master manipulators. This will not be the last nasty jab Obama will have to worry about.

The point of this thread is that YOU have never seen the media so biased....That is because 1. You are such a puppy. and 2. You had your head stuck up Olbermann's ass so far you could not see the forest for the trees.

This is nothing new.

[This_person]

I'm still trying to understand how it's NOT a slam on MLK and JFK.

Said Clinton, "Dr King’s dream began to be realized when President Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the president before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done."

She continued; "That dream became a reality, the power of that dream became real in people’s lives, because we had a president who said ‘we’re going to do it,’ and actually got it done."

[AndyMarquisLIVE (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Pete

There have been a lot of candidates fatally damaged by "memo's" leaked to the public by staffers.

Part of the problem here is the MSM through the years has created a giant suck hole for bona fide news so they fill that vacuum with ANYTHING they think will fill the void.

The Clinton's have always been media darlings on top of being master manipulators. This will not be the last nasty jab Obama will have to worry about.

The point of this thread is that YOU have never seen the media so biased....That is because 1. You are such a puppy. and 2. You had your head stuck up Olbermann's ass so far you could not see the forest for the trees.

This is nothing new.

Take a look at these quacks then.

MSNBC's as conservative as forestal.

[Pete (Premo)]

Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

Take a look at these quacks then.

MSNBC's as conservative as forestal.

Stop reading that crap. Real people don't

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

I agree it's a non-issue. The memo means nothing to me. Hillary's remarks mean nothing to me.

Well, it must have meant *something* to you or you wouldn't have started this thread.

[AndyMarquisLIVE (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Well, it must have meant *something* to you or you wouldn't have started this thread.

If a Republican had made that remark, do you think the media would've put it in proper context?

[ylexot (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

I'm still trying to understand how it's NOT a slam on MLK and JFK.

I'm trying to figure out how it IS a slam on MLK It would be impossible for MLK to sign legislation into law. He had an idea and LBJ effected the change. He didn't have to. She wasn't trying to discount the work of MLK (or Congress), but was trying to point out that the President is part of effecting change and she was trying to say that she would be in a position to effect change if she becomes President.

JFK...who cares?

[Kerad (Premo)]

Originally Posted by ylexot

I'm trying to figure out how it IS a slam on MLK It would be impossible for MLK to sign legislation into law. He had an idea and LBJ effected the change. He didn't have to. She wasn't trying to discount the work of MLK (or Congress), but was trying to point out that the President is part of effecting change and she was trying to say that she would be in a position to effect change if she becomes President.

As for JFK, she certainly didn't say anything negative about him:

...when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the president before had not even tried,...."

She said JFK was hopeful to get it done. Obviously the assassination prevented him from doing so. She then referred to the president before him (Eisenhower) as to not having tried.