How has the uranium thing hurt Bush's credibility?

[demsformd]

We all know that it was recently announced that President Bush used some faulty information in his State of the Union address that said that Saddam Hussein was attempting to buy uranium in Africa. Well, it seems right now that the intelligence community had deemed the information wrong in October. Democrats, especially liberals, would love to tell you that Bush knew that the report was wrong but used in anyways while Republicans and conservatives will tell you that it was George Tenet or some speechwriter. What do you guys think happend? And how does this affect the President's credibility?

I don't think it really will mean anything. The only people that really seem to care are those who were attacking Bush for anything and everything before....much like those who constantly attacked Clinton for the Lewinski affair...didn't hurt him much either.

[Ken King (Premo)]

Originally posted by demsformd
What do you guys think happend? And how does this affect the President's credibility?

Who knows what happened, it could have been British intelligence that created the fake documents to foster support for going into Iraq, it could have been a clandestine plant by any one of numerous others seeking to damage the President, or it could have actually been an Iraqi plan to acquire the "yellow cake" and be able to deny the accusation if discovered by proving the documents to be forgeries. As to credibility, I would say zero impact, except for those that already hate Bush and they will make this out to be the worst act ever by a President.

[BullDawg]

I agree, it won't hurt Bush one bit. The media has nothing better to report on which is why this has so much attention. It will all be forgotten about in a few weeks. Bush did the right thing in all regards with Iraq. I don't know about the rest of you SOMD'ers, but I sleep a little bit better at night. Bush is making the world a safer place one ruthless leader at a time.


And what about George Tenet - what a man of character to stand up and take the heat for the president.

[demsformd]

I don't think that President Bush knew about this...it is apparent that his staff and advisers do everything for him. Tenet, who it seems knew that the uranium report was bogus, could have vetoed the speech's usage of the report and Bush's only part of the speech was to deliver it. The only thing that could convince me that Bush deliberately misled the American people is if Tenet or several other high ranking, credible witnesses come out and say that he told the president the report was false prior to the speech. If that occurs, then well I think that the House of Representatives should look into the possibility of impeachment.

That being said, it looks like while we here may not think that the report's falseness should downplay the President's credibility, apparently it is with the general public. Newsweek ran a poll from July 9-11 that shows the President's job approval ratings slipping to 55% and his disapproval rating increasing nine points while a Washington Post/ABC News poll shows the same. This could be the downfall of the president's reelection so I'm gonna stay tuned in.

[Ken King (Premo)]

Originally posted by demsformd
I don't think that President Bush knew about this...it is apparent that his staff and advisers do everything for him. Tenet, who it seems knew that the uranium report was bogus, could have vetoed the speech's usage of the report and Bush's only part of the speech was to deliver it. The only thing that could convince me that Bush deliberately misled the American people is if Tenet or several other high ranking, credible witnesses come out and say that he told the president the report was false prior to the speech. If that occurs, then well I think that the House of Representatives should look into the possibility of impeachment.

That being said, it looks like while we here may not think that the report's falseness should downplay the President's credibility, apparently it is with the general public. Newsweek ran a poll from July 9-11 that shows the President's job approval ratings slipping to 55% and his disapproval rating increasing nine points while a Washington Post/ABC News poll shows the same. This could be the downfall of the president's reelection so I'm gonna stay tuned in.

You are so freaking funny. Having a staff that actually does what they are hired to do is an issue for you. Give me a break. Tenet hasn’t said that Iraq did not attempt to acquire uranium from Africa, only that the initial reports lacked validity, which according to some has been verified by alternative sources. Also don’t hold your breath waiting for someone to come forward to say the President lied, because he hasn’t, unlike someone else we all know.

Dems, you haven’t figured it out yet, have you. The only poll that makes a hill of beans is the one taken the first Tuesday in November every four years when we vote. So go ahead, stay tuned all you want, as of yet the Democratic party hasn’t had one of the fellows running make a clear leap in front of the others (mostly because they are all regurgitating the same attack Bush message). To me it looks like it will be another four years with GW in the Whitehouse as none of the candidates offered up look any better then what we have now.

For what its worth Tenent isnt really one of Bush's staff, he is in a fairly non political position (thank god) and was actually appointed to that position by.......Bill Clinton.

The president no matter who it is has a million decisions a day to make and has a grand ole 10-20 seconds to think about them having to trust his advisors and staff. Making a speach, even the state of the union address, doesn't rank up there in importance unless its election time.

[demsformd]

Ken, I didn't say that I have a problem with Bush having his staff doing his work for him...hell I am thankful because all of us know that our president isn't an intellectual heavyweight. I am saying that it is his staff's fault not his.

Ken, I think that polls are good barometers of how things are going right now. And right now the polls are against President Bush. Another Newsweek poll shows that only 47% of people desire another term for Bush while 46% desire someone else. It's gonna be competitive and my bet is that history here will repeat itself (no candidate to ever win the White House without the popular vote could win reelection).

[SmallTown]

Originally posted by demsformd
Ken, I think that polls are good barometers of how things are going right now.

oh come on dems, we all know that polls mean nothing unless your guy is doing well.

Like Michael Douglas said in "The American President"

"Heck my ratings drop 5 points if Wisconson doesn't go to the Rose Bowl"

Get together more than 5 people and no matter what you do your bound to #### someone off (learned that at work) so Imagine 265 million.