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[vegmom]

I think Kerad's point is not that all conservatives are racist or sexist, but that people who would automatically exclude a candidate based on race or gender (and not their policies) tend to be on the extreme right. I highly doubt many of those folks are currently registered Democrats. I went to an ultra-conservative church run school for several years that did not believe women should even join the military.

[edinsomd]

Originally Posted by vegmom

I think Kerad's point is not that all conservatives are racist or sexist, but that people who would automatically exclude a candidate based on race or gender (and not their policies) tend to be on the extreme right. I highly doubt many of those folks are currently registered Democrats. I went to an ultra-conservative church run school for several years that did not believe women should even join the military.

You base this sweeping analysis on your experience in a church school as a student?

As for racist, let me help. Check out the pedigree of one Robert C. Byrd, Democratic Senator from West Virginia.
You're welcome,
Ed

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Kerad

Stereotypes exist for a reason.

No, sweetheart. Stereotypes are also created out of thin air. The Democrats have THE racist history, from the Civil War to the Civil Rights era. The leftist media spouted the lie that Republicans were racist until it was accepted as truth.

I challenge you to show me legislation written by Republicans that is either anti-black or anti-woman. And don't say abortion, or I'll smack you in the head with all the women's groups that DO NOT support abortion and think it should be outlawed.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by vegmom

people who would automatically exclude a candidate based on race or gender (and not their policies) tend to be on the extreme right.

Name one. Just one. Show me an example that supports your theory.

[ImnoMensa]

Hilary's gender has nothing to do with my disliking her policies, her attitude, her arrogance, her bad temper, her health program, her pro abortion stance, her hatred of the military,her firing of the travel staff, her stealing the FBI files, her taking pay from Walmart, her 8 million she took for a ghost written book, etc, etc ,etc.

Obama's race has nothing to do with my dislike for his stance on abortion, his lack of experience, his naivete', his liberal entitlements programs etc. etc. You may blame the fatc that I dont like either of them on race or gender and call me on the right, but the fact is I dont like them because they are too left to suit me.

And so is John McCain a white man.

[Mateo]

I believe Woodrow Wilson was a clan member and it was democrats in the south at the forefront of the anti civil rights movements..this changeover to liberal views is a recent thing. Both parties have their factions with differing opinions, and to label the republican party as completely racist is as nutty as to think there arn't democrats with conservative ideas.
Teodoros the Obese as godfather of the democratic party ???? Oh Lord....gimme strength !!!!!

Originally Posted by vegmom

I think Kerad's point is not that all conservatives are racist or sexist, but that people who would automatically exclude a candidate based on race or gender (and not their policies) tend to be on the extreme right. I highly doubt many of those folks are currently registered Democrats. I went to an ultra-conservative church run school for several years that did not believe women should even join the military.

That's a pretty sweeping conclusion to reach by just judging the people in one group. I do agree with you that the folks in your church group might all feel the same way, but that's a natural tendency in a group. People who think the same way tend to form into groups like the one at your church.

But expand the discussion a bit. When do you think that a white man will ever be the mayor of Washington DC? This is the most Democrat-controlled city in the country, and the majority of voters are black. They feel that a white guy won't understand their needs, so they vote black. Look at southern CA. More and more, as Hispanics become a larger percentage of the population, they vote for Hispanic candidates.

Look at Democrat women, who will tell you to your face that they don't care about all of Hillary's problems. They're going to vote for her because they want a woman in the White House.

I'm sure there were some folks in your church who would say "I'll never vote for a black guy or a woman for president", but they are more than balanced out by blacks in DC who say they'll never vote for a white guy, or Hispanics in CA who will never vote for anyone but a Latino candidate.

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by vegmom

I think Kerad's point is not that all conservatives are racist or sexist, but that people who would automatically exclude a candidate based on race or gender (and not their policies) tend to be on the extreme right.

This is irrational thinking, but it's fairly common, and I've found it common among liberals.

It goes like this:

1. I hate (members of group "X")
2. I hate (behavior of group "Y")
3. Therefore, all X's are Y's.

It's called projection. You don't like a behavior and you don't like a group, so you assign the group with the behavior. Usually all you need to cement your belief is ONE instance where it's seen as true - or even one instance where it appears to be true.

If you ALREADY believe whites are racist or blacks are criminals or Hispanics are lazy, it's usually pretty easy to find one case to confirm the prejudice.

You can keep doing this to label your despised group as communists, or pedophiles or any other behavior you detest.

Further -

I'm disinclined to ascribe any kind of behavior to the EXTREME left or EXTREME right - because it implies one very obvious assumption that everyone is glossing over.

If it is the extreme that believes this or that, the less extreme *also* believe it, but to a lesser extent. Left and right generally refer to political philosophies - making a case that extreme this or that absolutely implies that more moderate versions of the same also believe it, just not as profoundly.

You're not doing conservatives any favor by calling them racists or misogynists but qualifying it as only belonging to the extreme. What you imply is that we are also, just not as much.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by SamSpade

1. I hate (members of group "X")
2. I hate (behavior of group "Y")
3. Therefore, all X's are Y's.

I get some of my best real-life retorts from you.

I'm still waiting for Kerad and Vegmom to give me an example of anti-woman or anti-black legislation that would support their theory that Republicans are racist and misogynistic.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Kerad

Stereotypes exist for a reason.

There are a lot of stereotypes out there, are you sure you want to stick with this line of thought?

I never said (nor do I think) that the majority of Republicans think that way...especially when it's concerning my Republican buddies on this site.

I'm glad to hear that. I'd add that the majority of bigots do not fall into any specific political ideology, as there are stupid people in every line of thought.

By the way...why would you refer to Obama as " BHO" ???

They're his initials. Quicker to type. Plus, he used to go by "Barry" until he decided to run for higher and higher office, so Barack really doesn't fit who he saw himself as, and Obama is too close to Osama, and I'd hate to have a mistype go awry. I get enough bad karma when I'm right about things, I'd hate to add to it for something small and trivial like that.