McCain v. Obama/Clinton...

Here's another angle to consider: McCain, by his own admission, has always had trouble dealing with anyone telling him what to do. My Lucy 5-cent psych analysis says that this stems from him being the son of an admiral, but his record of disciplinary actions at the academy and during his naval service show a strong tendency to refuse authority and always assert his dominance. His time as a POW reinforced this, and he came out of it with many of the disorders common to long-term internees... violent outbursts, rages, rantings, feelings of persecution, etc. This is a guy who frequently gets into the classic definitions of "snits", and sometimes quite angrilly.

So I think people need to think about what a guy like this would/could do if America were attacked again. I know there are a lot of folks who yack about turning some country or another into a radioactive wasteland, but McCain would have the power to do that. We would be handing the keys to the world's most powerfull military to a guy with a long track record of personality and mental disorders. Is that such a good idea? Maybe we need to ask that question now rather than asking ourselves "what were we thinking???" a few years down the road.

[ImnoMensa]

When it come to the environment, Health care, entitlements, amnesty for illegals. These three could be triplets.

Mccain stands out on Iraq.

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

Here's another angle to consider: McCain, by his own admission, has always had trouble dealing with anyone telling him what to do. My Lucy 5-cent psych analysis says that this stems from him being the son of an admiral, but his record of disciplinary actions at the academy and during his naval service show a strong tendency to refuse authority and always assert his dominance. His time as a POW reinforced this, and he came out of it with many of the disorders common to long-term internees... violent outbursts, rages, rantings, feelings of persecution, etc. This is a guy who frequently gets into the classic definitions of "snits", and sometimes quite angrilly.

So I think people need to think about what a guy like this would/could do if America were attacked again. I know there are a lot of folks who yack about turning some country or another into a radioactive wasteland, but McCain would have the power to do that. We would be handing the keys to the world's most powerfull military to a guy with a long track record of personality and mental disorders. Is that such a good idea? Maybe we need to ask that question now rather than asking ourselves "what were we thinking???" a few years down the road.

Okay… Let me preface this with, I am not a McCain supporter, but……. This is crap. McCain came out of a level of torture and brutality that none of us could possibly fathom. Where so many vets coming out of that war never saw the inside of a POW camp became virtual mental invalids (God bless all of them), McCain saw through his pain – I’m sure with many mental and physical obstacles – to be one of the most successful statesmen of our time. I may not agree with many of his policies but to use this as a mark to define his qualifications for the WH (or disqualifications), is something that I will never subscribe to.

I would like to think McCain would use this aggressiveness you’ve defined as a strength to go after our enemy. We should all approach this terrorist situation with a certain level of anger and “snitiness”. McCain started his political career in 1976 and has served in Congress since 1982. This is a total of 42 years of experience that you just don’t get with a bad temper or violent outbursts, rages, rantings, or snits. I’m sure McCain has had his moments but this man has climbed up through struggles that most of us only experience when our eyes are closed.

Talk about his philosophy and ideas, but I say leave this personal crap out of it.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by 2ndAmendment

Isn't that the way of most Presidents in modern history? Just good enough to get by. Just what we need leading the country. Just good enough to get by.

We now have the choice of three; none of which really care about the Constitution or the rights of the citizens. Money and power, money and power, money and power, I'll say it again, money and power. That is what drives those in office for the most part. The citizens of the United States are getting what they deserve because they don't care enough to really know the candidates; someone who is just good enough; not outstanding, not at the top, not the epitome, not the best of the best; just good enough.

...we either keep up the pressure on McCain and influence him and his choices, judges, legislation, etc, as much as possible or we cede the field.

I say keep up the fight.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

I know there are a lot of folks who yack about turning some country or another into a radioactive wasteland, but McCain would have the power to do that.

If I thought McCain had the guts to actually pull the trigger, I'd consider voting for him. Unfortunately, he's full of crap like 99.999% of the rest of politicians.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

If I thought McCain had the guts to actually pull the trigger, I'd consider voting for him. Unfortunately, he's full of crap like 99.999% of the rest of politicians.

...this is the one area I feel some comfort with McCain about; letting the military kill and break things to achieve the desired results.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by BuddyLee

I don't think Iraq will be the single issue that decides this election. The economy easily trumps that and is recorded so in numerous polls.

That's because we're a bunch of Cheeto eating morons. The economy is fine and fluctuating the way it always has. What's different is that Bush opened up a can on the terrorists, something that has been a long time coming and it's about friggin' time. But the media wants to focus on the niggling bits that have nothing to do with anything in the long run, because they don't like the success we're having on other fronts.

Certain vocal segments of our population have this fear of government. And that's great because you don't want those sneaks having too much power. But what they should REALLY fear is the media, because they control us like no fascist regime ever could. And yet their power is ignored and they are considered the friendly folks who give us information.

And THAT should terrify every single one of us.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...this is the one area I feel some comfort with McCain about; letting the military kill and break things to achieve the desired results.

He's already spoken out against...um...let's say "enhanced interrogation techniques". Of course, he has since "clarified" his position, but I do not trust him to allow our protectors to do the job in order to keep us safe. I think he is a worse appeaser than Bush, if that's at all possible, and will do whatever his Manchurian handlers tell him to do.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Certain vocal segments of our population have this fear of government. And that's great because you don't want those sneaks having too much power. But what they should REALLY fear is the media, because they control us like no fascist regime ever could. And yet their power is ignored and they are considered the friendly folks who give us information.

And THAT should terrify every single one of us.

...but the media has ZERO power over anyone who doesn't allow it. Not one person is prohibited from finding more about any story in the world; the history of Osama, his goals, what Hillary is all about, McCain, campaign finance reform, Saudi Arabia, global warming, all of it. People CHOOSE to be ignorant, unknowing, or choose to only believe what fits their faiths.

We are NOT allowed into the government, into what FBI, CIA and so forth are doing. I can be buried by the government and ruined by the media. The media does not have the power to impose. The government does.

[RangerJohn]

Originally Posted by PsyOps

Okay… Let me preface this with, I am not a McCain supporter, but……. This is crap. McCain came out of a level of torture and brutality that none of us could possibly fathom. Where so many vets coming out of that war never saw the inside of a POW camp became virtual mental invalids (God bless all of them), McCain saw through his pain – I’m sure with many mental and physical obstacles – to be one of the most successful statesmen of our time. I may not agree with many of his policies but to use this as a mark to define his qualifications for the WH (or disqualifications), is something that I will never subscribe to.

I would like to think McCain would use this aggressiveness you’ve defined as a strength to go after our enemy. We should all approach this terrorist situation with a certain level of anger and “snitiness”. McCain started his political career in 1976 and has served in Congress since 1982. This is a total of 42 years of experience that you just don’t get with a bad temper or violent outbursts, rages, rantings, or snits. I’m sure McCain has had his moments but this man has climbed up through struggles that most of us only experience when our eyes are closed.

Talk about his philosophy and ideas, but I say leave this personal crap out of it.

Tremendous post...this is one of the most well thought out posts I've seen here. There is no candidate in this election, that I can agree with on every issue. However, McCain is the one I believe has the most experience, and for all of his failings..(and who among us don't have our failings?) has the best temperment for the job, among the choices we have before us.
He has travelled back to Vietnam, met with those who were his captor, and forgiven them. What he endured during his years in prison camp would have provoked a hostility that I think few of us would be able to overlook. After his return, relations between the United States and Vietnam were 'normalized,' and he played a major part in the legislation that okay'ed the normalization. I would say that this is indication that he is able to put aside whatever personal animousity he might have for a person or government, so he can do what is right for our country.
Of the five remaining candidates (Hillary, Obama, Huckaby, Paul and McCain) think of which one will be our 'friends' in Iran and Syria the most cause for concern. Who will cause Assad, Khameinei, and Ahmadinejad to have sleepless nights?
Three of the remaining candidates say they would start pulling out our troops on 22 January 2009 (OK, Hillary has backtracked from that already, but does anybody really trust what she has to say?) Whether President Bush was right or wrong to go into Iraq in the first place is a moot point now...this will not be resolved during his Presidency, and will in all probability, not be completely resolved in 2012 either. However, to back away invites larger problems, that will require more lives and resources to solve.
I remember how all the newsroom pundits cried that a Ronald Reagan presidency woud lead to conflicts and war, and that the Gipper was somehow "trigger-happy," and that the nukes would be a-flyin'. I also remember the Iranians released our hostages about 15-20 minutes after President Reagan was sworn in. (I think they knew better than to mess with him! My favorite quote of his was "America has never lost a war because we were too strong!" GOD how I love that one!) I think we all agree that the Reagan Presidency worked out pretty darned well.

I think the choices are pretty clear (although Bru and Larry I think will respectfully disagree with me! But that is okay.....the disagreements and the right to hold our own opinions is what makes our country great.). I think McCain will keep our country safer than the others will. I mean, if you see a mean looking cop with a radar gun, you aren't going speed past him, are you?

Good post Psy!