McCain v. Obama/Clinton...

*Larry Gude* ^(Premo) · 02-08-2008, 12:28 PM

...OK, so how do things shape up from here? I'm trying to think through the issues debate;

McCain v. Hillary

#1 Iraq/Islamofascism

Hillary, if she is the nominee, will be in a quandary here. Can she back pedal enough to get by? Is she going to far left with withdrawal dates? If socialized medicine is her strongest issue, 'winning' in Iraq is his. Do they cancel each other out?

I can't think of any major differences between the two. I can see McCain supporting increases on taxes on oil companies, especially as he is a man-made global warming-ist these days.

McCain v. Obama

Again, Iraq is #1 and this is as clear cut as it could possibly get. Can a person named Barrack Hussein Obama, with an Islamic heritage actually win the presidency with a 'get out out of Iraq now' platform? Will he have enough credibility with his 'invade Pakistan' comments to be trusted to kill our enemies?

No other issue will matter besides this one if this is the match up.

McCain v. either one seems to be a single issue race; Iraq.

*PsyOps* ^(Premo) · 02-08-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...OK, so how do things shape up from here? I'm trying to think through the issues debate;

McCain v. Hillary

#1 Iraq/Islamofascism

Hillary, if she is the nominee, will be in a quandary here. Can she back pedal enough to get by? Is she going to far left with withdrawal dates? If socialized medicine is her strongest issue, 'winning' in Iraq is his. Do they cancel each other out?

I can't think of any major differences between the two. I can see McCain supporting increases on taxes on oil companies, especially as he is a man-made global warming-ist these days.

McCain v. Obama

Again, Iraq is #1 and this is as clear cut as it could possibly get. Can a person named Barrack Hussein Obama, with an Islamic heritage actually win the presidency with a 'get out out of Iraq now' platform? Will he have enough credibility with his 'invade Pakistan' comments to be trusted to kill our enemies?

No other issue will matter besides this one if this is the match up.

McCain v. either one seems to be a single issue race; Iraq.

I just don't see Hillary being nearly as strong on the war/terrorism front as McCain. Consider another attack on our country. Consider the bombings occuring in our own streets. Consider Iran finally getting a nuke. Consider Pakistan's nukes falling in the hands of terrorist groups.

I always think about the Clinton influence looming on the WH; and his name is Bill. What did HE do about terrorism and Iraq throughout his presidency, other than just talk about it. Nothing! Do you really see Hillary doing things any differently? I don't.

I see Obama pretty cut and dry. He will cower in a corner.

MMDad · 02-08-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Gude

McCain v. either one seems to be a single issue race; Iraq.

What about immigration? Oh that's right. Four years of prosperity for illegals, coming up!

2ndAmendment · 02-08-2008, 03:19 PM

I'll write in Ron Paul or maybe even myself. I refuse to ever vote for the lesser of two evils again.

jetmonkey · 02-08-2008, 03:21 PM

Didn't they declare McCain DOA a few weeks ago? Now he is president? wtf?

Hessian · 02-08-2008, 04:02 PM

It is like he is the Mahdi or something.

Ready to tackle global warming, sing kumbaya while we run from Iraq & Iran, fix all the terrible problems that Bush created.

The only people buying this are Public school products who got Lefty socialized History & government classes. Hate America, Globalism, Wacko environmentalism...I don't know how long Truth can hold out against the waves of "progressive" shallowness.

vegmom · 02-08-2008, 04:14 PM

Like it or not, one of the three is the next President of the United States.

vegmom · 02-08-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hessian

The only people buying this are Public school products who got Lefty socialized History & government classes. Hate America, Globalism, Wacko environmentalism...I don't know how long Truth can hold out against the waves of "progressive" shallowness.

Like the bulk of US millionaires who were educated in public schools and attended state colleges?

washingtonpost.com: The Millionaire Next Door

2ndAmendment · 02-08-2008, 04:24 PM

I think it may be time to move outside the U.S.

I don't think the U.S. will survive any of them.

Hessian · 02-08-2008, 04:29 PM

"But 55 percent of our children are currently attending or have attended private schools."

Real cheerleaders for Government education huh?
Notice the work ethic?....very interesting.

02-08-2008, 12:28 PM	#1
Larry Gude ^(Premo) Strung Out Member Since: Feb 2001 Posts: 63,351	McCain v. Obama/Clinton... ...OK, so how do things shape up from here? I'm trying to think through the issues debate; McCain v. Hillary #1 Iraq/Islamofascism Hillary, if she is the nominee, will be in a quandary here. Can she back pedal enough to get by? Is she going to far left with withdrawal dates? If socialized medicine is her strongest issue, 'winning' in Iraq is his. Do they cancel each other out? I can't think of any major differences between the two. I can see McCain supporting increases on taxes on oil companies, especially as he is a man-made global warming-ist these days. McCain v. Obama Again, Iraq is #1 and this is as clear cut as it could possibly get. Can a person named Barrack Hussein Obama, with an Islamic heritage actually win the presidency with a 'get out out of Iraq now' platform? Will he have enough credibility with his 'invade Pakistan' comments to be trusted to kill our enemies? No other issue will matter besides this one if this is the match up. McCain v. either one seems to be a single issue race; Iraq. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook __________________ "...When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law. These two evils are of equal consequence, and it would be difficult for a person to choose between them." Frédéric Bastiat
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02-08-2008, 03:19 PM	#4
2ndAmendment Just a forgiven sinner Member Since: Sep 2002 Posts: 14,192	I'll write in Ron Paul or maybe even myself. I refuse to ever vote for the lesser of two evils again. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook __________________ Three most important documents to me: Bible Marriage license to Sharon. U.S. Constitution
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02-08-2008, 03:21 PM	#5
jetmonkey Registered User Member Since: Oct 2006 Posts: 10,062	Didn't they declare McCain DOA a few weeks ago? Now he is president? wtf? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook
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02-08-2008, 04:02 PM	#6
Hessian Registered User Member Since: Mar 2001 Location: Lusby Posts: 2,912	Have you seen the Obama TV ads? It is like he is the Mahdi or something. Ready to tackle global warming, sing kumbaya while we run from Iraq & Iran, fix all the terrible problems that Bush created. The only people buying this are Public school products who got Lefty socialized History & government classes. Hate America, Globalism, Wacko environmentalism...I don't know how long Truth can hold out against the waves of "progressive" shallowness. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook __________________ Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
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vegmom Bookseller Lady Member Since: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,732	Like it or not, one of the three is the next President of the United States. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook
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02-08-2008, 04:24 PM	#9
2ndAmendment Just a forgiven sinner Member Since: Sep 2002 Posts: 14,192	I think it may be time to move outside the U.S. I don't think the U.S. will survive any of them. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook __________________ Three most important documents to me: Bible Marriage license to Sharon. U.S. Constitution
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02-08-2008, 04:29 PM	#10
Hessian Registered User Member Since: Mar 2001 Location: Lusby Posts: 2,912	From your Wash post... "But 55 percent of our children are currently attending or have attended private schools." Real cheerleaders for Government education huh? Notice the work ethic?....very interesting. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook __________________ Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
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