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[RadioPatrol]

Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

Bingo. Republicans these days seem to think that you have to be for the Iraq war in order to be conservative. If you're against the Iraq war, your leftist, unpatriotic, want the terrorists to win, .

Man the beaches we'll kill'em as they come ashore .........

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Saddam Hussein didn't attack us.

I know it's going into another pointless argument because you guys think going into Iraq was the right decision for the reasons given. I don't because I do think it's deterred us from going after the real enemy.

[PsyOps]

Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

Saddam Hussein didn't attack us.

I know it's going into another pointless argument because you guys think going into Iraq was the right decision for the reasons given. I don't because I do think it's deterred us from going after the real enemy.

You mean Saddam wasn't a REAL enemy of the US?

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Originally Posted by PsyOps

You mean Saddam wasn't a REAL enemy of the US?

Saddam was a non-factor.

[PsyOps]

Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

Saddam was a non-factor.

No, you mean he's a non-factor now. Do I need to dredge up all those old quotes of all the people (democrats and republcans) stating what a "non-factor" Saddam was considered to be? Or are you going to default to the "see, there were no WMD, Bush is a liar" argument when I do?

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Originally Posted by PsyOps

No, you mean he's a non-factor now. Do I need to dredge up all those old quotes of all the people (democrats and republcans) stating what a "non-factor" Saddam was considered to be? Or are you going to default to the "see, there were no WMD, Bush is a liar" argument when I do?

Bush didn't start the foriegn policy of attacking Iraq. Clinton did.

Congress had the same intelligence and decided to vote for the war. They approved it. I'm not going to blame Bush. Everybody who voted for the war is equally at fault.

I just think this is the key issue that seperates me from most of the GOP.

[PsyOps]

Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

Bush didn't start the foriegn policy of attacking Iraq. Clinton did.

Congress had the same intelligence and decided to vote for the war. They approved it. I'm not going to blame Bush. Everybody who voted for the war is equally at fault.

I just think this is the key issue that seperates me from most of the GOP.

At fault for what? Following the intel as it was believed? Did you ever get to check our the 60 Minutes episode a few weeks ago? I posted it here. FBI agent George Piro was the sole interrogator of Saddam throughout his imprisonment; and was able to get some really interesting info from Saddam.

Saddam Hussein initially didn't think the U.S. would invade Iraq to destroy weapons of mass destruction, so he kept the fact that he had none a secret to prevent an Iranian invasion he believed could happen. The Iraqi dictator revealed this thinking to George Piro, the FBI agent assigned to interrogate him after his capture.

Saddam still wouldn't admit he had no weapons of mass destruction, even when it was obvious there would be military action against him because of the perception he did. Because, says Piro, "For him, it was critical that he was seen as still the strong, defiant Saddam. He thought that [faking having the weapons] would prevent the Iranians from reinvading Iraq," he tells Pelley.

This is something I have contended for a long time. It wasn't that the intel was wrong. It wasn't that Bush and everyone that believed intel was wrong. It was that Saddam made us believe he was still armed. He was pushing out intel to make the world believe he still had WMD to keep Iran away. So the only one at fault was Saddam. All he had to do was come clean.

Based on the intel we did the right thing. And we found out even more. Torture chambers, rape rooms, mass graves, hundreds of thousands butchered. No one deserves to be in power of a country with these crimes under his belt. Even without the WMD, we are still justified.

[Lenny]

Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

Bush didn't start the foriegn policy of attacking Iraq. Clinton did.

Congress had the same intelligence and decided to vote for the war. They approved it. I'm not going to blame Bush. Everybody who voted for the war is equally at fault.

I just think this is the key issue that seperates me from most of the GOP.

:sigh: it's the MTV generation.

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Originally Posted by PsyOps

This is something I have contended for a long time. It wasn't that the intel was wrong. It wasn't that Bush and everyone that believed intel was wrong. It was that Saddam made us believe he was still armed. He was pushing out intel to make the world believe he still had WMD to keep Iran away. So the only one at fault was Saddam. All he had to do was come clean.

Based on the intel we did the right thing. And we found out even more. Torture chambers, rape rooms, mass graves, hundreds of thousands butchered. No one deserves to be in power of a country with these crimes under his belt. Even without the WMD, we are still justified.

We have how many spy satellites?

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Originally Posted by Lenny

:sigh: it's the MTV generation.

I don't watch or like MTV.