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Old 02-12-2008, 12:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Christian Right: Kill Muslims to Purify the Earth

Christian Right's Emerging Deadly Worldview: Kill Muslims to Purify the Earth

"Walid Shoebat, Kamal Saleem and Zachariah Anani are the three stooges of the Christian right. These self-described former Muslim terrorists are regularly trotted out at Christian colleges -- a few days ago they were at the Air Force Academy -- to spew racist filth about Islam on behalf of groups such as Focus on the Family. It is a clever tactic. Curly, Larry and Mo, who all say they are born-again Christians, engage in hate speech and assure us it comes from personal experience. They tell their audiences that the only way to deal with one-fifth of the world's population is by converting or eradicating all Muslims. Their cant is broadcast regularly on Fox News, including the Bill O'Reilly and Neil Cavuto shows, as well as on numerous Christian radio and television programs. Shoebat, who has written a book called Why We Want to Kill You, promises in his lectures to explain the numerous similarities between radical Muslims and the Nazis, how "Muslim terrorists" invaded America 30 years ago and how "perseverance, recruitment and hate" have fueled attacks by Muslims."

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Their cant is broadcast regularly on Fox News, including the Bill O'Reilly and Neil Cavuto shows
Strange that I've never heard of them before...

BTW, FNC (including O'Reilly) also had Ward Churchill on. Does that mean that they support the notion that 9/11 was set up by the government or that we deserved it?
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Old 02-12-2008, 01:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Shoebat, who has written a book called Why We Want to Kill You, promises in his lectures to explain the numerous similarities between radical Muslims and the Nazis, how "Muslim terrorists" invaded America 30 years ago and how "perseverance, recruitment and hate" have fueled attacks by Muslims."
Ok they are out there, but their is a point to this. in regards to fighting Islamofasicts / Radical Islam ( although I believe they are just taking Islam Serious - read the Quran sometime and JPC's Interpretation ) or reading "The Sword of the Prophet; Islam history, theology, impact on the world Serge Trifkovic" then there is the "Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam" as well

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Although Islamofascism is usually a reference to Islamism or radical Islamism, rather than Islam in general, comparisons have been made between fascism and Islam, as far back as 1937, when the German Catholic emigré Edgar Alexander compared Nazism with "Mohammedanism"[citation needed], and again, in 1939, when psychologist Carl Jung said about Adolf Hitler, "he is like Mohammed. The emotion in Germany is Islamic, warlike and Islamic. They are all drunk with a wild god."[1]

According to Roger Scruton, the term was introduced by the French historian Maxime Rodinson to describe the Iranian Revolution of 1978. Scruton claims that Rodinson "was a Marxist, who described as 'fascist' any movement of which he disapproved", but credits him with inventing a "convenient way of announcing that you are not against Islam but only against its perversion by the terrorists."[2]

In 1990 Malise Ruthven wrote:

"Nevertheless there is what might be called a political problem affecting the Muslim world. In contrast to the heirs of some other non-Western traditions, including Hinduism, Shintoism and Buddhism, Islamic societies seem to have found it particularly hard to institutionalise divergences politically: authoritarian government, not to say Islamo-fascism, is the rule rather than the exception from Morocco to Pakistan." [3]

Albert Scardino attributes the term to an article by Muslim scholar Khalid Duran in the Washington Times, where he used it to describe the push by some Islamist clerics to "impose religious orthodoxy on the state and the citizenry".[4]

The related term, Islamic fascism, was adopted by journalists including Stephen Schwartz[5] and Christopher Hitchens,[6] who intended it to refer to Islamist extremists, including terrorist groups such as al Qaeda, although he more often tends to use the phrases "theocratic fascism" or "fascism with an Islamic face" (a play on Susan Sontag's phrase "fascism with a human face", referring to the declaration of martial law in Poland in 1981). [7] The terms Islamic fascism and Muslim fascism are used by the French philosopher Michel Onfray, an outspoken atheist and antireligionist, who notes in his Atheist Manifesto that Ruhollah Khomeini's Islamic Revolution "gave birth to an authentic Muslim fascism".[8]

Some commentators[attribution needed] including Paul Berman and Christopher Hitchens, believe there are similarities between historical fascism and Islamofascism:[9][page # needed]
* rage against historical humiliation; [10]
* inspiration from what is believed to be an earlier golden age (one or more of the first few Caliphates in the case of Islamism)[11][6];
* a desire to restore the perceived glory of this age -- or "a fanatical determination to get on top of history after being underfoot for so many generations"[10] -- with an all-encompassing (totalitarian) social, political, economic system;[5]
* belief that malicious, predatory alien forces (Jews in the case of Nazi Fascists or Islamofascists) are conspiring against and within the nation/community, and that violence is necessary to defeat and expel these forces; [6]
* exaltation of death and destruction along with a contempt for "art and literature as symptoms of degeneracy and decadence", and strong commitment to sexual repression and subordination of women.[6]
* offensive military, (or at least armed) campaign to reestablish the power and allegedly rightful international domination of the nation/community.[5]
The word is included in the New Oxford American Dictionary, defining it as "a controversial term equating some modern Islamic movements with the European fascist movements of the early twentieth century".[citation needed]
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most of the commontaters are obviouly from the left but:

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Posted by: carbon-based on Feb 12, 2008 5:34 AM

Forget for a moment that what we see is another HIT JOB on Christians. The left cannot seem to distinguish between Christians and “hard right” Evangelicals, just as they cannot seem to bring themselves to write a similar article denouncing what is probably the most violent religion in existence today, Islam, especially in it’s extreme form.

Regular every day Muslims do not pose any more threat to America as regular every day Christians pose to Muslims around the world.

One only needs to look at the terrorism Muslims are waging around the world to get a sense of why many people associate terrorism with Muslims, an unfortunate association for the every day muslim family.

As for McCains statements, Islamic terrorism is pretty much what is going on in the world today..not Christian terrorism. I do not see Christian blowing themselves up killing thousands. I also do not see any articles relating to recent reports that Islamic terrorists are recruiting children and mentally impaired people to blow themselves up for the cause.

I might also remind people that Obama and the far left especially take great pains to make sure people know he is not a Muslim – so it appears the left is just as phobic as the right about Muslims.

Lastly Islam is under no more threat in this country than Christianity – judging by the number of anti Christian articles appearing in left leaning publications, attacks by the ACLU and other groups to erase Christianity from our identity.

As a Catholic I am deionized by the far right Evangelicals/born again crowd as any other religion – but at least I feel pretty secure that they aren’t going to blow me up for their cause.


Can it be that people like Martin Luther King who was a very religious person and referred to religion in many of his speeches were that horrible or can even be compared to Islamic radicals.

It seems that it's the far left with their anti Christian movement that is fueling the Christian right response - the last thing we need is another religious right in office - way to go left!

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former Muslim terrorists... who all say they are born-again Christians
They sound like wolves in sheep's clothing with the same old tune.
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They tell their audiences that the only way to deal with one-fifth of the world's population is by converting or eradicating all Muslims.
NOTHING I have seen on any news broadcast has led me to believe that this is false.
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This is why there are so many left loons in this country - because they sit around picking their butt and reading AlterNet. That crap will make you crazy if you get too absorbed in it.
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"Walid Shoebat, Kamal Saleem and Zachariah Anani are the three stooges of the Christian right. These self-described former Muslim terrorists are regularly trotted out at Christian colleges -- a few days ago they were at the Air Force Academy -- to spew racist filth about Islam on behalf of groups such as Focus on the Family. It is a clever tactic. Curly, Larry and Mo, who all say they are born-again Christians, engage in hate speech and assure us it comes from personal experience. They tell their audiences that the only way to deal with one-fifth of the world's population is by converting or eradicating all Muslims. Their cant is broadcast regularly on Fox News, including the Bill O'Reilly and Neil Cavuto shows, as well as on numerous Christian radio and television programs. Shoebat, who has written a book called Why We Want to Kill You, promises in his lectures to explain the numerous similarities between radical Muslims and the Nazis, how "Muslim terrorists" invaded America 30 years ago and how "perseverance, recruitment and hate" have fueled attacks by Muslims."

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Before 9-11-2001, 27 of 28 active armed conflicts in the world involved Muslims/Islam.

But, some how to nhboy Conservatives and Christians are the problem. Keep drinking the coolaid duma$$!!!!
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This is why there are so many left loons in this country - because they sit around picking their butt and reading AlterNet. That crap will make you crazy if you get too absorbed in it.


It is funny reading how Rabid they get about the Religious Right / Far Right / Focus on the Family, James Dobson, Tim LeHay and his Left Behind books / referring to Christians as Sun God Worshipers
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Before 9-11-2001, 27 of 28 active armed conflicts in the world involved Muslims/Islam.

But, some how to nhboy Conservatives and Christians are the problem. Keep drinking the coolaid duma$$!!!!
care to show your math? cuz thats some crazy azzed stuff right there.

sounds like you are the one drinking the Koolaides
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