Double Life of Barack Obama

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

Once again... it pains me to see folks who have decried the Democrat's tactics for years, stooping to their tactics. This will be the first time since the Nixon-McGovern race that two diametrically opposed sides, who openly profess their leanings, will be going at it in an election. There isn't going to be a lot of running to the middle in this election, and the issues will be the prime driver. And what do conservatives and Republicans want to do? They want to take the Democrat low road and attack a guy based on what his preacher said, the old Guilt By Religious Affiliation road that we just said was closed after Romney was attacked for being a Morman.

I wonder how much more pathetic we can get.

Oh, ok. NOW I get it. It's all the Republicans fault!

Trying to change the subject is not going to work.

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Originally Posted by Bruzilla

Didn't a lot of us vote for George Bush, who is allied with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, the former of whom said "God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve" and the later who agreed with his comment?

Allied? Did he sit in their churches for 20 years? Did he contribute at least $20,000 to their churches? Did either of them baptise the President's daughters? Marry him and Laura?


Big difference.

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Originally Posted by bruzilla

gays

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

See???

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Originally Posted by Kerad

If there's a video or some other evidence that Obama actively cheered and approved of the speeches in question, things would certainly be different.

Funny how the only videos that have miraculously sprung up are the controversial ones. Do you think this is all the guy ever said? Evey single Sunday...nothing but these types of remarks? Or do you think the majority of his sermons were a bit more of what we expect a preacher to speak about?

Of course, putting these speeches into the context of an entire career's worth of sermons would decrease the shock value...so we're not going to have any of that.


As I stated before, when something can be attributed directly to Obama....then I'm interested. Until then, it's nothing I'm concerned about.

Wow.

Well, I'd like to see some of his speeches from his "community organizing" days in southside Chicago. I'll bet he was a good rabble rouser.
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I'm just guessing that, in the south of Chicago, there weren't all that many white people. So I guess it would be quite likely that he used many methods of stirring the pot that referenced the "white man keeping the black man down" more than once or twice. His job depended on his being GOOD at it. And he did it for 7 years.

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Originally Posted by Bruzilla

You're making a declarative statement that his pastor has been saying these things for 20 years. Might I inquire that this declaration is based on? All I keep hearing are excerpts from the sermons he made during his final year as the pastor.

No - at least one of the clips was from the weekend after 9-11-2001.

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Originally Posted by Sonsie

Ol' Barry was in a big hurry to point a finger at another public figure who made a stupid insignificant racial comment in a vain attempt to be funny. Pretty unforgiving for a guy who dissmisses the racial hate speech of his own mentor with ease.

Obama: Fire Imus - Obama First White House Contender to Call for Imus' Firing Over Racial Slur

"I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus," Obama told ABC News, "but I would also say that there's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude."

Thank God AlGore invented the intraweb, or we'd never be able to remind the folks about this kind of stuff so fast!

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Originally Posted by Bruzilla

Lord... why can't people ever provide a straight answer to a straight question? I ask thee as a humble agnostic... illuminate me with an answer.

How does him saying ""you don't and can't understand because you aint black" equate to he's been preaching this stuff for the 20 years that Obama has been in his church. So... one more time... where is the evidence that Wright has been saying these awful, repugnant, things for the past 20 years???

With all due respect, didn't you tell someone on another thread that you don't provide their research?

Google is your friend.

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Originally Posted by Bruzilla

Aye carumba! For about the millionth time, in my opinion this is not about anything more than one core issue - attacking a candidate based on what his religious leaders say. In the past, Republicans have always said this was wrong, and now we are saying it is okay just to win an election,

Aye carumba yourself! For about the millionth time, the right wing looney religious leaders are NOT the religious leaders of [insert name of evil Republican here]. Wright IS the religious leader of Obama and has been for 20 years.

To sum up:
[insert name of evil Republican here] - spent 20 minutes with looney religious leaders
Obama - spent 20 years with one looney religious leader.

Yes, I see a difference.