Faux News: Obama-bashing?

[vraiblonde]

I miss ED Hill - she is a serious and intelligent woman. Gretchen Carlson is just too flippy for me.

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

I miss ED Hill - she is a serious and intelligent woman. Gretchen Carlson is just too flippy for me.

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

I miss ED Hill - she is a serious and intelligent woman. Gretchen Carlson is just too flippy for me.

ED Hill was good. I like most of the anchors at FOX News, but Gretchen Carlson sucks imo. She can't go 10 seconds without opening her mouth and saying something ... anything.

I'm with you all on that. ED Hill was the best one they've had on the show so far and I haven't been impressed with Carlson at all.

As to the "it was all an act" theory, if you listen to the call from Chris Wallace to Brian Kilmeade's radio show later that day, it seems like Doocy was very pissed about being taken to task by Wallace. What's also interesting is Kilmeade's description of how producers drive, or don't drive, the show.

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

I'm with you all on that. ED Hill was the best one they've had on the show so far and I haven't been impressed with Carlson at all.

As to the "it was all an act" theory, if you listen to the call from Chris Wallace to Brian Kilmeade's radio show later that day, it seems like Doocy was very pissed about being taken to task by Wallace. What's also interesting is Kilmeade's description of how producers drive, or don't drive, the show.

Steve Doocy is a douche. All he seems to do is interject his opinion in every single story.

Carlson sucks.

Janice Dean is a horrible "meterologist." Janice Dean ain't no weather machine - 4 years ago she was covering celebirty filth on Imus in the Morning. I wish FOX could get some more competent people on in the mornings.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

All he seems to do is interject his opinion in every single story.

Duh, Beavis - that's what he's there for.

Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

Steve Doocy is a douche. All he seems to do is interject his opinion in every single story.

And I have no problem with that... except for when he wrote his book and was trying seven ways to Sunday to work the subject of marriage into every topic they discussed. What I saw as the difference in this case was that he felt challenged by Kilmeade, and started going off and trying to defend his position, which is not what he's there to do. He should offer his opinion and move on, not spend two hours trying to defend or justify in to Kilmeade.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

As to the "it was all an act" theory,

Did you actually see the segment where this happened? They were talking about Obama's "typical white person" comment and having a calm disagreement, with Kilmeade saying Obama didn't mean anything by it. Doocy said, "Well, how would you like it if I said you were a 'typical sports reporter', hmmm?" Kilmeade made a faux outraged face and "stormed" off the set, with the cameras following and catching him laughing once he got backstage.

I didn't see/hear the Chris Wallace part, but they talked about it the next day on F&F and the consensus was that Wallace was genuinely angry, even though his version of events was disputed (they didn't talk about Obama non-stop, it was blips here and there throughout the program). Wallace said, "I still love you guys," and Doocy replied, "Funny way of showing it."

This is why you cannot trust someone else, especially the biased media, to tell you what happened. They have their own agenda, put their own spin on it, and suddenly the story is much more interesting than what really happened.

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Did you actually see the segment where this happened? They were talking about Obama's "typical white person" comment and having a calm disagreement, with Kilmeade saying Obama didn't mean anything by it. Doocy said, "Well, how would you like it if I said you were a 'typical sports reporter', hmmm?" Kilmeade made a faux outraged face and "stormed" off the set, with the cameras following and catching him laughing once he got backstage.

I didn't see/hear the Chris Wallace part, but they talked about it the next day on F&F and the consensus was that Wallace was genuinely angry, even though his version of events was disputed (they didn't talk about Obama non-stop, it was blips here and there throughout the program). Wallace said, "I still love you guys," and Doocy replied, "Funny way of showing it."

This is why you cannot trust someone else, especially the biased media, to tell you what happened. They have their own agenda, put their own spin on it, and suddenly the story is much more interesting than what really happened.

I watched the whole F&F show from about 6:30 AM to 9:00 AM. Right now they're putting a "ha-ha" face on it, but Kilmeade was pissed when he walked past that last camera man on his way to the door and said something about "that makes my point". What point? That Doocy is a pinhead? That Wallace is a pinhead? That he was right about Obama? We don't know, but my feeling was that he was mad. Also, there have been a couple of times when Kilmeade has feigned anger or frustration when either Doocy or the producers mess with him, and he always whines and then makes a very theatrical exit towards the right of the set where he'll be out of the camera's view. He's never just gotten up, walked out, and gone out the door.

As for Doocy, watch the video clip of again and keep an eye on Doocy's face. He's usually looking at the camera when someone he's interviewing is talking, but several times he's looking away from the camera. This is normal behavior when you are mad at someone to lookin another direction or off to the side to avoid eye contact, and I think that was what Doocy was doing as I've never seen him do that before. And on Kilmeade's radio show, this was said:

Wallace: "Let me ask you a quick question. How mad is Doocy at me?"
Kilmeade: "He's mad. I gotta be honest, he's really mad."

I never got the impression that Wallace was mad about anything. His tone was more like "we're better than this" through the whole event. What I saw the problem as being was that Doocy had a strong opinion one way, Carlson had a different opinion, and Kilmeade had his opinion. And every half hour the producers would have them open with this story, which would re-ignite the debate over and over again, and instead of talking for two minutes like they were supposed to, they would go off and discuss it for whole segments. So I could see where if Wallace were tuning in from time to time that they were eating up the whole two hours, which they weren't, but it was close to that. Also, Kilmeade said on his radio show that he had been watching Special Report with Brit Hume, and they had burned up both panel segments discussing the remark, so since they did it then it must be okay.

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

I watched the whole F&F show from about 6:30 AM to 9:00 AM. Right now they're putting a "ha-ha" face on it, but Kilmeade was pissed when he walked past that last camera man on his way to the door and said something about "that makes my point". What point? That Doocy is a pinhead? That Wallace is a pinhead? That he was right about Obama? We don't know, but my feeling was that he was mad. Also, there have been a couple of times when Kilmeade has feigned anger or frustration when either Doocy or the producers mess with him, and he always whines and then makes a very theatrical exit towards the right of the set where he'll be out of the camera's view. He's never just gotten up, walked out, and gone out the door.

As for Doocy, watch the video clip of again and keep an eye on Doocy's face. He's usually looking at the camera when someone he's interviewing is talking, but several times he's looking away from the camera. This is normal behavior when you are mad at someone to lookin another direction or off to the side to avoid eye contact, and I think that was what Doocy was doing as I've never seen him do that before. And on Kilmeade's radio show, this was said:

Wallace: "Let me ask you a quick question. How mad is Doocy at me?"
Kilmeade: "He's mad. I gotta be honest, he's really mad."

I never got the impression that Wallace was mad about anything. His tone was more like "we're better than this" through the whole event. What I saw the problem as being was that Doocy had a strong opinion one way, Carlson had a different opinion, and Kilmeade had his opinion. And every half hour the producers would have them open with this story, which would re-ignite the debate over and over again, and instead of talking for two minutes like they were supposed to, they would go off and discuss it for whole segments. So I could see where if Wallace were tuning in from time to time that they were eating up the whole two hours, which they weren't, but it was close to that. Also, Kilmeade said on his radio show that he had been watching Special Report with Brit Hume, and they had burned up both panel segments discussing the remark, so since they did it then it must be okay.

They got called out by their own network personality, Chris Wallace, and couldn't handle it.