So where is the Retraction Forestool

[PsyOps]

Originally Posted by forestal

quite simply Al Qaeda wants us out of Muslim holy lands, and they want us to stop backing corrupt royal families.


That and pre-emptive military strikes on muslims...

What u got?

Don't give me this crap about "They hate us because we have freedom". That's Bush league Bullsh1+

Okay, nice try. You gave me your best left-wing-league-Bullsh1+ answer.

They hate us because they are fanatics. They hate us because they are a bunch of bigots that see only their radical ideology. Have you considered how many of their own they have killed? Have you considered how many Muslims don't even live in their "holy land"? They live here. That just has to irk those radicals to no end. So they kill. Not talk, not understand, not broker any sort of peace... they kill. And it's not even the actual people that make them angry that they kill. They go into weddings, busses, and restaurants - where people that are just living their innocent lives - and butcher them in the most unimaginable ways.

But, as predicted, it’s always the US’s fault.

[RadioPatrol]

Originally Posted by nhboy

This is just a shoddy editorial rant from a moonie rag. You're the tool, and not a very good one.

Shoddy Editorial Rant ..... so you dismiss the message because you don't like the messenger ....

Moonie Rag ........ yeah So F'ing What .... is Moon Directing the Editors on the Paper ........


Maybe the NY Post:

Report Details Saddam's Terrorist Ties

WASHINGTON — A Pentagon review of about 600,000 documents captured in the Iraq war attests to Saddam Hussein's willingness to use terrorism to target Americans and work closely with jihadist organizations throughout the Middle East.

The report, released this week by the Institute for Defense Analyses, says it found no "smoking gun" linking Iraq operationally to Al Qaeda. But it does say Saddam collaborated with known Al Qaeda affiliates and a wider constellation of Islamist terror groups.

The report, titled "Saddam and Terrorism: Emerging Insights from Captured Iraqi Documents," finds that:

• The Iraqi Intelligence Service in a 1993 memo to Saddam agreed on a plan to train commandos from Egyptian Islamic Jihad, the group that assassinated Anwar Sadat and was founded by Al Qaeda's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri.

• In the same year, Saddam ordered his intelligence service to "form a group to start hunting Americans present on Arab soil; especially Somalia." At the time, Al Qaeda was working with warlords against American forces there.

• Saddam's intelligence services maintained extensive support networks for a wide range of Palestinian Arab terrorist organizations, including but not limited to Hamas. Among the other Palestinian groups Saddam supported at the time was Force 17, the private army loyal to Yasser Arafat.

• Beginning in 1999, Iraq's intelligence service began providing "financial and moral support" for a small radical Islamist Kurdish sect the report does not name. A Kurdish Islamist group called Ansar al Islam in 2002 would try to assassinate the regional prime minister in the eastern Kurdish region, Barham Salih.

• In 2001, Saddam's intelligence service drafted a manual titled "Lessons in Secret Organization and Jihad Work—How to Organize and Overthrow the Saudi Royal Family." In the same year, his intelligence service submitted names of 10 volunteer "martyrs" for operations inside the Kingdom.

• In 2000, Iraq sent a suicide bomber through Northern Iraq who intended to travel to London to assassinate Ahmad Chalabi, at the time an Iraqi opposition leader who would later go on to be an Iraqi deputy prime minister. The mission was aborted after the bomber could not obtain a visa to enter the United Kingdom.

Saddam Hussein's Philanthropy of Terror - by Deroy Murdock

[Go G-Men]

Originally Posted by forestal

Whatever are you babbling about???

Study Discounts Hussein, Al-Qaeda Link

An examination of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents, audio and video records collected by U.S. forces since the March 2003 invasion has concluded that there is "no smoking gun" supporting the Bush administration's prewar assertion of an "operational relationship" between Saddam Hussein and the al-Qaeda terrorist network, sources familiar with the study said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/14/wo...html?ref=world

WASHINGTON — There was no direct operational connection between Saddam Hussein’s government and Al Qaeda before the war in Iraq, says a Pentagon-sponsored study released Wednesday.

WDAM.com Laurel-Hattiesburg, MS The Pinebelt's Choice For News, Sports and Weather | Pentagon says no link between Iraq and Al Qaeda

A detailed Pentagon study released Wednesday confirmed there was no direct link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda before the war in Iraq.

Free Internet Press :: Pentagon Study: Saddam Hussein Had No Ties To Al-Qaeda

The Pentagon's independent auditor released a report last year that chastised an internal military office created by Bush allies for promoting a link between Hussein and al-Qaeda despite intelligence showing that none existed. Even after that report, however, vice president Dick Cheney continued saying that al-Qaeda leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi collaborated with Iraq.

Just so you know, the United States supported Jihadist groups when it suited its interest. Maybe you remember the soviet occupation of Afghanistan? Al Qaeda is blowback on us for stoking Islamic religious ferver against infidels.

I guess all the originators of all those links have no agenda huh? Washington Post, NY times... Oh yeah there fair... those links

[Go G-Men]

Originally Posted by forestal

You're missing the finer point here. The IDA is claiming that there USED to be a connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda before 2000.

But why the hell would we attack a foreign country based on old, stale, terrorist ties?

Didn't we support the Contras? They were terrorists. Didn't we support the Mujahadeen? They were terrorists...

While we're attacking countries that have had ties to terrorists in past times, maybe we should attack ourselves?

Actually the "ties go back prior to 2000"... So where is the finer point? Having terrorist ties is terrorist ties... Plus screwing with the U.N. and all their resolutions...

Bottom line the Iraqi leadership needed to be gone.