Do you think

[bcp (Premo)]

That the GOP running a liberal like McCain is a good indication that the Bush Administration has damaged the party beyond easy repair?

I can not cast a vote for anyone running in the front at this point. My choices will be to write in or just not cast a vote for president in the first place

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by bcp

That the GOP running a liberal like McCain is a good indication that the Bush Administration has damaged the party beyond easy repair?

...a matter of perspective. An awful lot of people voted for McCain in the primaries, so, if the people are the party, McCain is the people's choice and he is the party. I think most people pretty much agree this is a conservative issue more than a GOP issue. He is very much in the mold of Bush 41 and, as we've learned, Bush 43. So, he's a Republican, very much so. Just not a conservative one. And that leads me to a final comment, is it really fair to call him a liberal? Again, he's not a conservative on most issue, but he is far more so than his two leading rivals on plenty of issues.

The PR campaign to label him this hard core right wing ideologue is well under way which is a bit of a hoot considering how the hard core right wing views him.

[bcp (Premo)]

the problem that is obvious to those that are watching him now for the first time is that he seems to be liberal on the main issues, immigration, health care, etc...

the other problems are obvious to those that have met and dealt with him in person. Of course it is possible that he has changed in 30 years or so...

[donbarzini]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...a matter of perspective. An awful lot of people voted for McCain in the primaries, so, if the people are the party, McCain is the people's choice and he is the party. I think most people pretty much agree this is a conservative issue more than a GOP issue. He is very much in the mold of Bush 41 and, as we've learned, Bush 43. So, he's a Republican, very much so. Just not a conservative one. And that leads me to a final comment, is it really fair to call him a liberal? Again, he's not a conservative on most issue, but he is far more so than his two leading rivals on plenty of issues.

The PR campaign to label him this hard core right wing ideologue is well under way which is a bit of a hoot considering how the hard core right wing views him.

I'm still writing you in.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by donbarzini

I'm still writing you in.

...you heard? Of late, I am a crazy nut shouting gloom and doom on the street corner.

I'd be perfect!

What job would you like?

[donbarzini]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...you heard? Of late, I am a crazy nut shouting gloom and doom on the street corner.

I'd be perfect!

What job would you like?

Can I be Commisioner of Baseball?

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by bcp

the problem that is obvious to those that are watching him now for the first time is that he seems to be liberal on the main issues, immigration, health care, etc...

...but, unlike Democrats who just like opening up presents and worry about what's inside later, people who care about conservative issues tend to know the players and their positions.

Most Obama supporters, if not every last one of them, actually think he voted against the Iraq war even though he wasn't there for that vote AND he has voted to fund it every single time when he was there.

Wait until they open that one up in a couple months!

If Hillary wasn't so tone deaf should have been slamming him on that one for the last six months.

[bcp (Premo)]

out of the three hillary has to be the last choice, Im not sure I could stand 4 years of her screeching while watching her eyeballs pop out of her head, the whole time seeing billy bob in the back trying to make sure he is on camera too.

somewhere deep in the mountain woodlands is a flat tired trailer with the clintons shingle hanging out front.

[Bonehead]

I just cannot vote for any of them, the black socialist, the liberal democrat or Mc Cain more of the same.

[PsyOps]

Originally Posted by bcp

That the GOP running a liberal like McCain is a good indication that the Bush Administration has damaged the party beyond easy repair?

I can not cast a vote for anyone running in the front at this point. My choices will be to write in or just not cast a vote for president in the first place

To the staunch conservative McCain is a liberal. To a moderate he is moderate or even conservative. To a liberal, he is conservative. It's all relative.

There is principle; then there is reality. In principle, no conservative wants McCain. In reality the thought of Obama or Clinton is worse. What have you done to your principles that your resulting vote would place Clinton or Obama in the WH? You may be able to wash your hands of it, but you’re still stuck with a worse scenario.