Bruzilla's wrong...

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Hillary's still got a very good chance.

That's what the cablers have been saying this morning.

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Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

Hillary's still got a very good chance.

That's what the cablers have been saying this morning.

You are going to get it now.

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I've been saying Hill had the nomination in a back room deal made last year

It will be legitimized by the 'popular' vote

Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

Hillary's still got a very good chance.

That's what the cablers have been saying this morning.

You know... I heard a few Clintonites saying how we have some "important primaries coming up this next Tuesday!" Important? WV and Kentucky are "importantl"? They are nothing in the grand scheme of things. The last big state was NC, and all that's left are onesies and twosies, and Hillary's only going to win two or three of the last six, and probably by an even split. I then heard Harold Wolfson on Fox News Sunday saying that Obama is not even campaigning in WV and KY, which shows "he's afraid of Hillary and the lead she has there!" Yeah, or maybe he knows his battle is now with beating McCain and doesn't want to waste time or money winning primaries he doesn't need to win.

Yeah Andy... I'm hearing all kinds of Clintoniestas all over the cable news outlets proclaiming how Hillary can't be counted out. If you want to believe them, go right on ahead and believe. You're only going to be embarassing yourself.

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Originally Posted by Bruzilla

You know... I heard a few Clintonites saying how we have some "important primaries coming up this next Tuesday!" Important? WV and Kentucky are "importantl"? They are nothing in the grand scheme of things. The last big state was NC, and all that's left are onesies and twosies, and Hillary's only going to win two or three of the last six, and probably by an even split. I then heard Harold Wolfson on Fox News Sunday saying that Obama is not even campaigning in WV and KY, which shows "he's afraid of Hillary and the lead she has there!" Yeah, or maybe he knows his battle is now with beating McCain and doesn't want to waste time or money winning primaries he doesn't need to win.

Yeah Andy... I'm hearing all kinds of Clintoniestas all over the cable news outlets proclaiming how Hillary can't be counted out. If you want to believe them, go right on ahead and believe. You're only going to be embarassing yourself.

It's over.

I just don't understand why the media is making a bigger deal out of this than they are the earthquake, Myanmar and all the other things going on. West Virginia is a non-story that's getting more media hype than the Super Bowl.

It's called ratings. The cable news outlets are getting top dollar for ad spots that before were just about worthless. So... they're going out of their way to make every primary a "must see TV" event. They could get away with it up through last week, but it's now going to be a tougher sell.

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Originally Posted by Bruzilla

It's called ratings. The cable news outlets are getting top dollar for ad spots that before were just about worthless. So... they're going out of their way to make every primary a "must see TV" event. They could get away with it up through last week, but it's now going to be a tougher sell.

On a day like this, does anyone care?

MSNBC's had endless primary coverage for months, and all it's done to their ratings is kill them. ESPECIALLY when there's a major breaking news event. Once people go home and tune in for more on the big stories happening today and the newschannels are about the election (and they will), they're just going to turn it off.

Remember the California inferno?

Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

On a day like this, does anyone care?

MSNBC's had endless primary coverage for months, and all it's done to their ratings is kill them. ESPECIALLY when there's a major breaking news event. Once people go home and tune in for more on the big stories happening today and the newschannels are about the election (and they will), they're just going to turn it off.

Remember the California inferno?

I don't know what their ratings are, nor do I know how much money they're raking in, but I do know that the cable news outlets wouldn't be doing what they are doing if they weren't making a ton of money from it. So you may think that this is killing their ratings, but apparently their bookkeepers disagree with you.

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Originally Posted by Bruzilla

It's called ratings. The cable news outlets are getting top dollar for ad spots that before were just about worthless. So... they're going out of their way to make every primary a "must see TV" event. They could get away with it up through last week, but it's now going to be a tougher sell.

If it's ratings, why is MSNBC tanking?

CNN is getting better, FOX is killing them both.

This endless coverage of the Obama/Clinton fight is making me sick, kinda wish we would have a national primary on the same day for both parties, three months out, and then let the feathers fly. The TV coverage is making me ill.

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Originally Posted by cwo_ghwebb

If it's ratings, why is MSNBC tanking?

CNN is getting better, FOX is killing them both.

This endless coverage of the Obama/Clinton fight is making me sick, kinda wish we would have a national primary on the same day for both parties, three months out, and then let the feathers fly. The TV coverage is making me ill.

MSNBC's ratings are way up, again, and FOX is way down.

CNN should've hired Keith Olbermann while they had the chance. That would've killed MSNBC. MSNBC's flagship faces are Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews and Mika Brzezinski. Any of them go, and MSNBC goes down the gutter.

The biggest problem, though, is MSNBC was growing tremendously and was beating CNN and HLN around the clock up until Imus got fired. Then, MSNBC stuck their heads up their collective asses and did a terrible job with the Virginia Tech story. Once they fumbled that, they offed themselves. That was too big a human interest story at the time for them to screw up the way they did.

They also had huge potential with the MN Bridge Collapse. They ran primetime and overnight coverage and, for a few hours, they looked like the MSNBC I grew up watching and liking. The next day, they dropped the ball and gave Paris Hilton and Britney airtime. By the end of the day after the bridge collapse, it wasn't even a blip on the radar for MSNBC and they were back to about the election while FOX and CNN came full-circle with the story.

So, while they're showing growth, it means nothing because they were at rock-bottom last year. They were getting beat out by CNBC and Headline News for most of the day.