Bob Barr Announces for President

[aps45819 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by cwo_ghwebb

It makes me wonder though, as Perot looked like a decent third party candidate, and then look what happened.

Perot picked a senile admiral as a running mate and there were appearent viable alternatives.
This go round we have either "I hate America" or "I want to loot America" on one side and a liberal posing as a conserative on the other.

[cwo_ghwebb]

Originally Posted by Bann

I heard Barr talking about this last month on Neal Boortz's radio show. It would certainly be a viable alternative to what's out there now if he can get things rolling money-wise, etc.

I agree 100 percent. The problem (as I see it) is funding #1, getting an organization to get the name on the ballot #2, and kinda an offshoot of number one, get the message out. I don't think Barr has an internet organization/person/guru to get money or webmaster to get those millions of tiny contributions or young folks to get his message across youtube etc that he would need to get a viable campaign going. I'm not being negative, I think I'm being realistic. If he would have said this six months ago, I think those of us adamantly against McVain would have rallied behind him.

I'm a pragmatist. I really hate to say that. I have limited skills in the computer field, enough to make a small company successful, but that's about all. I'm a realist about risk vs achievement. That's what I do for the companies I represent, and I've very good at what I do.

There has to be a commitment of cash, to fund several fronts. He has to get the nomination, one. He has to fund the troops on the ground, even with volunteers, they need his name on the ballot in ALL fifty states. If not, he's gone. He needs enough funds to finance polling to see if he can get enough electoral votes to force a faceoff. What if nobody gets enough votes to win the Presidency outright?

I really hate to say this because I REALLY like this guy, he's the only one with the gonads to say what's on the mind of 90 percent of folks like me. But without the money to make it all work, it ain't gonna work.

Let me know with some details of his funding and after he gets nominated, my wife and I got plenty of time and expertise. We can help. PM me after the nomination.

[cwo_ghwebb]

Originally Posted by aps45819

Perot picked a senile admiral as a running mate and there were appearent viable alternatives.
This go round we have either "I hate America" or "I want to loot America" on one side and a liberal posing as a conserative on the other.

Aps, I normally agree with you on most things political. But in this case, I'm sorry,Vice Admiral James Bond Stockdale, Naval aviator, senior Navy Prisoner of War in Vietnam, Medal of Honor recipient, hero, author and academic was in your opinion, a failed Vice Presidential candidate?

I didn't agree with his political positions. Being a POW does strange things with a persons mind, kinda like Jimmah Carter, attacked by the overly large rabbit. I don't denounce what he accomplished, just how he expressed himself, over time, on his positions. I was used to putting azzwipes in his position, not rescuing senor officers in his position. That being said, experiences shape a person. And we can judge corectly/incorrectly that what is being said is valid/invalid. I was never in the Admiral's position, of being a POW, thank heavens! I feel he ran on his true beliefs, however, IMO, misguided. He had the unfortunate experience of being captured (I believe that is one of McCain's experiences that is misguidedly steering his candicacy). One as the CINC has to take all factors into consideration.

I respected the Admiral. He was a true American hero. He just sucked as a politician. He wasn't a Caesar... Unfortunately.

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by cwo_ghwebb

I agree 100 percent. The problem (as I see it) is funding #1, getting an organization to get the name on the ballot #2, and kinda an offshoot of number one, get the message out. I don't think Barr has an internet organization/person/guru to get money or webmaster to get those millions of tiny contributions or young folks to get his message across youtube etc that he would need to get a viable campaign going. I'm not being negative, I think I'm being realistic. If he would have said this six months ago, I think those of us adamantly against McVain would have rallied behind him.

I'm a pragmatist. I really hate to say that. I have limited skills in the computer field, enough to make a small company successful, but that's about all. I'm a realist about risk vs achievement. That's what I do for the companies I represent, and I've very good at what I do.

There has to be a commitment of cash, to fund several fronts. He has to get the nomination, one. He has to fund the troops on the ground, even with volunteers, they need his name on the ballot in ALL fifty states. If not, he's gone. He needs enough funds to finance polling to see if he can get enough electoral votes to force a faceoff. What if nobody gets enough votes to win the Presidency outright?

I really hate to say this because I REALLY like this guy, he's the only one with the gonads to say what's on the mind of 90 percent of folks like me. But without the money to make it all work, it ain't gonna work.

Let me know with some details of his funding and after he gets nominated, my wife and I got plenty of time and expertise. We can help. PM me after the nomination.

[aps45819 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by cwo_ghwebb

Aps, I normally agree with you on most things political. But in this case, I'm sorry,Vice Admiral James Bond Stockdale, Naval aviator, senior Navy Prisoner of War in Vietnam, Medal of Honor recipient, hero, author and academic was in your opinion, a failed Vice Presidential candidate?

I respected the Admiral. He was a true American hero. He just sucked as a politician. He wasn't a Caesar... Unfortunately.

He appeared to nod off and seemed disoriented during the televised debates.

[vraiblonde]

Ol' Bob Barr doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting more than 1% of the vote, but hopefully they'll let him participate in debates and give him some air time.

[aps45819 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Ol' Bob Barr doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting more than 1% of the vote, but hopefully they'll let him participate in debates and give him some air time.

This might be the year that breaks the Dem/Repub lock on American politics.
Clinton-Obama is dividing the Dems and consivertives feel abandoned by McCains nomination. A common sense consertive could be the answer

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by aps45819

This might be the year that breaks the Dem/Repub lock on American politics.

Nah. I'll bet half of voters couldn't even name all three candidates still left in the race. They will go to the polls and vote for either the Democrat or the Republican, without really knowing anything about that person.

I was in the Wal-Mart the other day and the cashier, trying to make conversation, commented that it was crazy for the Republicans to raise the sales tax and gas prices when so many people were "struggling". I think she is the norm, not you or me.

[Bruzilla]

Originally Posted by cwo_ghwebb

Could happen IF he's got an organization to get him on the ballot in all the states and enough money for advertising.

Don't the Libertarians have a standing spot in all 50 states already? They just need to stick a name to the box.

[Bruzilla]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Ol' Bob Barr doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting more than 1% of the vote, but hopefully they'll let him participate in debates and give him some air time.

During any other election I would agree with you. But there is a lot of anti-black resentment on the Dem side, and a ton of anti-McCain resentment on the Republican side. Then you also have the greeners with Nader hoping to show an alternative to the Democrats. So for this election, I can see someone like Barr having an excellent shot at winning, especially when running with a confirmed party.