Obama supporters met with racism

[AndyMarquisLIVE (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

Huh... so all those "the party of old white men" comments about the Republicans didn't really say "white" in them?I think you're missing the point. When you use race as a deciding factor, you're a racist. It doesn't matter if you use race as a reason TO do something, or a reason NOT TO do something, you're still using race as a deciding factor.

So, voting FOR or AGAINST Barry for being bi-racial is equally racist.

Here, let me dumb it down for you.

Black people usually vote Democrat in the general election, no matter what. At this point, with as much as Sen. Clinton and the LSM has made race an issue, I have no problem with people voting for Obama because he's black. Race hadn't been an issue for so long, but Clinton wants to keep bringing it up. Why? It's divisive, it's controversial, and it helps her in West Virginia and other non-factor states that she's trying to use to legitimize her candidacy.

[GSXR_MOE]

Originally Posted by This_person

Huh... so all those "the party of old white men" comments about the Republicans didn't really say "white" in them?I think you're missing the point. When you use race as a deciding factor, you're a racist. It doesn't matter if you use race as a reason TO do something, or a reason NOT TO do something, you're still using race as a deciding factor.

So, voting FOR or AGAINST Barry for being bi-racial is equally racist.

Come on now, let’s be real about this. Race is a factor, it’s not that only factor; but it’s a factor none the less. Like others have said, I've got no problems voting for a white guy (or women for that matter); hell I’ve done it many many times. However while comparing all the candidates, Obama's race was a plus for me; just like I'm sure it was a minus for many others....

Now was his race the only reason I voted for him?? No, but it was a factor. Its funny to see people say that his race isn't a factor, when that is what he is getting killed for. White people were so surprised when they heard the Rev Wright stuff, but stuff like that is nothing new for the average black person in America. We've heard stuff like that before, that's why we dismissed it so easily. I know many people who I love and respect who share many of Rev. Wright views... Do I agree with them?? NO. Do I call them out on it?? NO. Race is the thing that people always point to because it's such an obvious thing; its more of a cultural thing.. Blacks and Whites are different culturally... It is what it is.

That is why I love coming on this board; people reveal more of their racial side on the Internet because they can hide behind their monitor. I see people taking shots at Waldorf and I ask myself, Why is that?? Waldorf isn’t the “Ghetto” like many on her have portrayed it to be. However, Waldorf is one of the fastest growing black populations in Maryland, and I have always felt welcomed; but I see there are allot of people in S. Maryland who don’t want people like me here.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by AndyMarquisLIVE

Here, let me dumb it down for you.

Black people usually vote Democrat in the general election, no matter what. At this point, with as much as Sen. Clinton and the LSM has made race an issue, I have no problem with people voting for Obama because he's black. Race hadn't been an issue for so long, but Clinton wants to keep bringing it up. Why? It's divisive, it's controversial, and it helps her in West Virginia and other non-factor states that she's trying to use to legitimize her candidacy.

We're not talking about whether black people vote democrat, we're talking about WHY people choose a particular candidate to vote for or against. In what you're saying, it is okay to vote FOR Barry because he lies and calls himself African-American, but it's not okay to vote AGAINST him because he calls himself that. So, racism is okay as long as it's FOR a race, not against it? Isn't the concept of not judging someone based upon the content of their character, but the color of their skin instead, a racist thing to do no matter what, regardless of who is running and how they USE the concept?


BTW, Hillary has virtually the same quantity of supporters as Barry, so I think she's using the democratic process to legitimize her candidacy, not racism or the size of states.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by GSXR_MOE

Come on now, let’s be real about this. Race is a factor, it’s not that only factor; but it’s a factor none the less. Like others have said, I've got no problems voting for a white guy (or women for that matter); hell I’ve done it many many times. However while comparing all the candidates, Obama's race was a plus for me; just like I'm sure it was a minus for many others....

Now was his race the only reason I voted for him?? No, but it was a factor. Its funny to see people say that his race isn't a factor, when that is what he is getting killed for. White people were so surprised when they heard the Rev Wright stuff, but stuff like that is nothing new for the average black person in America. We've heard stuff like that before, that's why we dismissed it so easily. I know many people who I love and respect who share many of Rev. Wright views... Do I agree with them?? NO. Do I call them out on it?? NO. Race is the thing that people always point to because it's such an obvious thing; its more of a cultural thing.. Blacks and Whites are different culturally... It is what it is.

That is why I love coming on this board; people reveal more of their racial side on the Internet because they can hide behind their monitor. I see people taking shots at Waldorf and I ask myself, Why is that?? Waldorf isn’t the “Ghetto” like many on her have portrayed it to be. However, Waldorf is one of the fastest growing black populations in Maryland, and I have always felt welcomed; but I see there are allot of people in S. Maryland who don’t want people like me here.

For me personally, Waldorf is an issue (specifically the mall) because of crime. I couldn't care less WHO is committing the crime, or what color they are. If there's a high crime spot, I'd like to stay away from it, and I'd like it to be as far from MY home and family as possible.

As for a candidate, I have to say the same thing I did above. Even if race is just one factor, taking that factor into account is a racist act. Perhaps your whole reason is not racist, but it has a racist component to it just like if you chose AGAINST him for being bi-racial. It's dishonest to not take that concept both ways. Now, some people are comfortable with a little racism, as long as they balance it with something else. I'm not. If Barry were the Ronald Reagan candidate, I'd vote for him. He's not. He's Dan Quayle with liberal thoughts instead of conservative ones. He's not qualified, IMO, and what he's shown with his voting record and speeches is far too socialist for me. Whether he's white or black or (in his case) neither.

[AndyMarquisLIVE (Premo)]

Originally Posted by GSXR_MOE

Come on now, let’s be real about this. Race is a factor, it’s not that only factor; but it’s a factor none the less. Like others have said, I've got no problems voting for a white guy (or women for that matter); hell I’ve done it many many times. However while comparing all the candidates, Obama's race was a plus for me; just like I'm sure it was a minus for many others....

Now was his race the only reason I voted for him?? No, but it was a factor. Its funny to see people say that his race isn't a factor, when that is what he is getting killed for. White people were so surprised when they heard the Rev Wright stuff, but stuff like that is nothing new for the average black person in America. We've heard stuff like that before, that's why we dismissed it so easily. I know many people who I love and respect who share many of Rev. Wright views... Do I agree with them?? NO. Do I call them out on it?? NO. Race is the thing that people always point to because it's such an obvious thing; its more of a cultural thing.. Blacks and Whites are different culturally... It is what it is.

That is why I love coming on this board; people reveal more of their racial side on the Internet because they can hide behind their monitor. I see people taking shots at Waldorf and I ask myself, Why is that?? Waldorf isn’t the “Ghetto” like many on her have portrayed it to be. However, Waldorf is one of the fastest growing black populations in Maryland, and I have always felt welcomed; but I see there are allot of people in S. Maryland who don’t want people like me here.

Waldorf's getting bad.

Before I continue, let me say that just because event a happened before event b, it does not mean event a caused event b.

Event A: More blacks move to Waldorf.

Event B: Crime goes up.

I'm not saying or insinuating in any way that crime's going up because the black population is going up, nor am I saying blacks are the only people committing crimes.

That said, you can see why there is concern, can't you?

I was deeply offended by Rev. Wright's comments, but it's a non-factor to me when it comes to Obama. I went to church and I remember Bill Simpson helping me out a great deal during the worst times of my life. I don't know or care what his politics are. I wouldn't throw him under the bus for it.

The election isn't about Rev. Wright's political views. It's about Barack Obama's views.



The whole Wright story was trumped up by the Clinton-supporting left wing media and by Republicans. It's a non-issue.

Originally Posted by RadioPatrol

Depends, Was Al Sharptounge, or Jessie Jackass running .... I heard plenty when these guys ran ....

Yeah... and how much of the black vote came out for them? I seem to remember neither of those clowns got much of anything vote wise.

[bcp (Premo)]

I wonder how many blacks are going to vote for obama just because he is black.

is that racist?

Originally Posted by GSXR_MOE

Come on now, let’s be real about this. Race is a factor, it’s not that only factor; but it’s a factor none the less. Like others have said, I've got no problems voting for a white guy (or women for that matter); hell I’ve done it many many times. However while comparing all the candidates, Obama's race was a plus for me; just like I'm sure it was a minus for many others....

Great points and thanks. But just to make one thing clear... you didn't vote for Obama because you can't stand white people or you didn't want to see a white person as president. I think that's the point of view some are missing as they can't see the difference between supporting someone because of their race and hating someone and voting against someone because of their race.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

Great points and thanks. But just to make one thing clear... you didn't vote for Obama because you can't stand white people or you didn't want to see a white person as president. I think that's the point of view some are missing as they can't see the difference between supporting someone because of their race and hating someone and voting against someone because of their race.

When you do something "because of their race", you're being racist. I think THAT is what some aren't getting.

Originally Posted by bcp

I wonder how many blacks are going to vote for obama just because he is black.

is that racist?

Well, racism is defined as: The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others or discrimination or prejudice based on race. So are blacks being racist? I would say no for two reasons. First, I have never seen a tendency for blacks to refuse to vote for whites. Second, they are supporting someone based on his race and discriminating or being prejudiced against him. The white voters on the other side of the debate who are refusing to vote for him because he's black fail both of those tests.
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