WVa Results

I know... Hillary won huge in the state best known for its single-branched family trees. No news there. But I did find this data to be very interesting. Check the vote totals:

Hillary: 239,062/67% Winner
Obama: 91,652/26%

Huckabee: 567/52% Winner
Romney: 521/47%
McCain: 12/1%
Paul: 0/0%

I keep hearing about how Obama should be worrying about the WVa numbers (which is a joke) but I think McCain should be the one doing the worrying after that primary.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

I know... Hillary won huge in the state best known for its single-branched family trees. No news there. But I did find this data to be very interesting. Check the vote totals:

Hillary: 239,062/67% Winner
Obama: 91,652/26%

Huckabee: 567/52% Winner
Romney: 521/47%
McCain: 12/1%
Paul: 0/0%

I keep hearing about how Obama should be worrying about the WVa numbers (which is a joke) but I think McCain should be the one doing the worrying after that primary.

Since McCain is already the nominee, and Barry is not, why do you think this?

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

I think McCain should be the one doing the worrying after that primary.

Ya never know - Romney or Huckabee might just pull it off!



And Christy isn't going to like that WVA slam.

What suprised me was the near absense of votes for McCain. I expected there to be a low turnout given that McCain was already the nominee, but nothing like this.

In 2000, long after George Bush was the presumptive nominee, the numbers were:

Bush: 87,500/79.57%
McCain: 14,121/12.91
Keyes: 5,210/4.76%
Forbes: 1,733/1.58%
Bauer: 1,290/1.18%

In 2004, when Bush was the only guy on the ballot and there was zero suspense, he got 111,109 votes.

So how does this read? It reads that all of the Republican votes combined is less than than the total Gary Bauer got in 2000! It also shows that there is zero support for McCain.

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

And Christy isn't going to like that WVA slam.

I know. I grew up in Pittsburgh and there's a lot of influences from Wheeling WV there, so there's that regional rivalry thing when you grow up there. It's all in fun... but most people from WV are inbreds.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

What suprised me was the near absense of votes for McCain. I expected there to be a low turnout given that McCain was already the nominee, but nothing like this.

In 2000, long after George Bush was the presumptive nominee, the numbers were:

Bush: 87,500/79.57%
McCain: 14,121/12.91
Keyes: 5,210/4.76%
Forbes: 1,733/1.58%
Bauer: 1,290/1.18%

In 2004, when Bush was the only guy on the ballot and there was zero suspense, he got 111,109 votes.

So how does this read? It reads that all of the Republican votes combined is less than than the total Gary Bauer got in 2000! It also shows that there is zero support for McCain.

You know McCain is already the nominee, right? Done. No one cares (or, rather, only 1100 people cared) enough to vote, and they were sending the guy who's already won the nomination that he needs to turn right in his ideology.

Other than that, all it shows is that more than 2/3 of that state are NOT for Barry. That race mattered, because there's still a race going on for the Democrats.

[vraiblonde]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

What suprised me was the near absense of votes for McCain. I expected there to be a low turnout given that McCain was already the nominee, but nothing like this.

Help me understand why this surprises you. If McCain already has it sewn up, it seems unlikely that his supporters would go to the polls. However, it seems very likely that those who support the other candidates would come out with a protest vote.

It also shows that there is zero support for McCain.

That might be the "stretch" statement of the day. But the day's not over, so we'll have to see...

And for the sake of being fair and balanced, here's the Dem numbers for 2000 and 2004:

For 2000:

Gore: 182,403/72%
Bradley: 46,710/18%
McDonald: 19,374/8%
LaRouche: 4,823/2%

For 2004:

Kerry: 175,065/69.2%
Edwards: 33,950/13.4%
Lieberman: 13,881/5.5%
Dean: 10,576/4.2%
Clark, Wesley: 9,170/3.6%
Kucinich: 6,114/2.4%
LaRouche: 4,083/1.6%

It looks like the Dems picked up about 75,000 new voters this go around. I wonder how many were Operation CHAOS Republicans?

Originally Posted by This_person

You know McCain is already the nominee, right? Done. No one cares (or, rather, only 1100 people cared) enough to vote, and they were sending the guy who's already won the nomination that he needs to turn right in his ideology.

Other than that, all it shows is that more than 2/3 of that state are NOT for Barry. That race mattered, because there's still a race going on for the Democrats.

That line of thought isn't proven out by the 2000 and 2004 vote totals. The exact same circumstances existed in 2000, and yet over 109,000 Republicans showed up to vote in the Primary. In 2004 there was even less suspense and still over 111,000 people came out to vote. The whole "McCain already has the nomination" argument just doesn't work.

[aps45819 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

I keep hearing about how Obama should be worrying about the WVa numbers (which is a joke) .

B Hussein Obama can not get enough delegates committed to clinch the nomination before the convention. It's numerically impossible, so why shouldn't he worry about getting whomped in WV?

Oh I remember, it's because the carpetbagger made a deal last year for the nomination with the super delegates