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| I would sure love to know what Cheney has to do with war in Iraq. I was unaware that a VP has the power to authorize military action.
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What Clare and other Blood For Oil-ers are insinuating is that the ONLY reason we went to war with Iraq was so Halliburton could make a zillion $$$ rebuilding the country. And that's simply ridiculous. Neither Cheney NOR Bush have the power to declare war. And Congress voted on it fair and square, with bi-partisan support.
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but you've bought up this point a few times and this one question always bothers me. How can we call someone that doesn't have this power our commanding chief?
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| After working as a government contractor for 16 years I am very surprised that anyone is surprised by any of this. Crap like this happens all the time! There are pet contractors everywhere, and they will make sure that contract requirements favor them. I worked on one proposal where the incumbant had written the contract requirements to meet exactly the personnel and the physical location they already had. There was no way that any other company could meet the requirements. I'm sure Haliburton is going to work with whoever the contract issuer is to make sure that the RFP favors them. That's the way that business is done, regardless of whether you're selling oil services or bullets. Those companies that are complaining are just setting themselves up to make a challenge of the award because that's cheaper and easier than doing the upfront work and making the investments that Haliburton has made. There's nothing new here. |
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Remember the video to Land of Confusion? Where they show Ronald Reagan accidentally setting off a nuke? I always thought that was the most ignorant thing I ever saw but you'd be surprised how many people think that's actually how it happens. The Prez gets a wild hair and pulls the trigger.
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| I’m sure almost all of us know that Cheney was employed by Halliburton, but he divested himself of all interest in that company, the largest U.S. oilfield services company, after the 2000 election. Remembering the oil well fires from Gulf War I, and the amount of work getting Kuwait squared away, the administration had the Corps of Engineers let contracts prior to hostilities in preparation for more of the same. I don’t find it amazing or unusual to have the largest company in our nation for this type of work getting the contract. Could some see it as a conflict of interest? I’m sure they could, but I just don’t see how as Cheney divested his interests in that company. It looks like the government got the company most capable of performing the work. I’m sure Cheney still has contacts with Halliburton, but if he didn’t obtain any direct benefit from this work, how could it be a conflict of interest? As to the powers of the Commander-in-Chief, with regard to the War Powers Resolution, the President may “introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.” In this case he had specific statutory authorization.
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