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Old 06-10-2008, 10:02 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:07 AM   #22 (permalink)
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That there's not enough of a trail in the person they're looking at, because he is inexperienced, with very little record to check.

But, the record that is there is, of course, riddled with suspiscious activity, socialist leanings, horrific CLOSE personal associations, etc., etc.
I get a real kick out of hearing people say "we don't know anything about the guy", which is usually followed at some point by "I know he's a leftist, marxist, uber-Liberal, left-pandering, yada, yada, yada POS!" Well, if you don't know anything about him, how do you know that he's all those things??? It's such a stupid argument.

How can anyone who remotely follows politics not know a lot about Obama? The guy's written two books about himself! Every aspect of his career has been discussed at length. Every vote he has made, and every position he has taken has been discussed. What the heck is still left unknown?
 
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I get a real kick out of hearing people say "we don't know anything about the guy", which is usually followed at some point by "I know he's a leftist, marxist, uber-Liberal, left-pandering, yada, yada, yada POS!" Well, if you don't know anything about him, how do you know that he's all those things??? It's such a stupid argument.

How can anyone who remotely follows politics not know a lot about Obama? The guy's written two books about himself! Every aspect of his career has been discussed at length. Every vote he has made, and every position he has taken has been discussed. What the heck is still left unknown?
Re-read what I actually wrote before attacking what I DIDN'T say:
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That there's not enough of a trail in the person they're looking at, because he is inexperienced, with very little record to check.

But, the record that is there is, of course, riddled with suspiscious activity, socialist leanings, horrific CLOSE personal associations, etc., etc
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:11 AM   #24 (permalink)
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How can anyone who remotely follows politics not know a lot about Obama? The guy's written two books about himself! Every aspect of his career has been discussed at length. Every vote he has made, and every position he has taken has been discussed. What the heck is still left unknown?
What I find amusing is that this guy has written two books about himself already. I don't think he's done enough to even warrant a Reader's Digest article yet. Are you sure that they are books or are they his manifestos?
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:16 AM   #25 (permalink)
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What I find amusing is that this guy has written two books about himself already. I don't think he's done enough to even warrant a Reader's Digest article yet. Are you sure that they are books or are they his manifestos?
He's had some great things to say in his books, too
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From Dreams of My Father: "There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."

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Old 06-10-2008, 10:41 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Well, they had no problem prosecuting Rezko, and they investigated Obama and others. If there was any wrongdoing there, I'm sure the authorities would have made it public, or at least offered one of their "not enough evidence to convict" statements. The fact that they did neither, that I am aware of, tells me there's nothing there but rampant speculation and rumour mongering.

Actually, it means nothing of the sort. And you keep posting the same things over and over again with NO SOURCES. Therefore, you are posting conjecture, rampant speculation and supposition.

Source your information. The fact is Obama DID buy that piece of land from Rezko's wife for far more than it was appraised at or worth. At the very least that make him an idiot.

And the leftists say GW is stupid?! :
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:48 AM   #27 (permalink)
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What I find amusing is that this guy has written two books about himself already. I don't think he's done enough to even warrant a Reader's Digest article yet. Are you sure that they are books or are they his manifestos?

They may or may not be his manifestos - but what I read in some of that Tony Rezko stuff talked about how one could funnel a lot of money through those book deals. i.e., getting the book published and getting paid a lot of money for it - then also getting tons of money throught the sales. Who buys the books? Who knows? But the scheme could be done. Someone or somebodies buy all these books - thereby getting a ton of money to Obama through supposedly legitimate channels.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:14 AM   #28 (permalink)
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What I find amusing is that this guy has written two books about himself already. I don't think he's done enough to even warrant a Reader's Digest article yet. Are you sure that they are books or are they his manifestos?
I've never been fascinated enough with myself to write one autobiography, but that's just me. Apparently Obama is so intrigued with himself he though he warranted two. Might have been an egotistical thing to do, but I gotta give him credit. He aired all of his dirty laundy in those books, like his family history, his drug use, etc., so there was no way to accuse him of trying to conceal his past.
 
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McCain wrote about his past dirty laundry in his books, also.
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:00 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I get a real kick out of hearing people say "we don't know anything about the guy", which is usually followed at some point by "I know he's a leftist, marxist, uber-Liberal, left-pandering, yada, yada, yada POS!" Well, if you don't know anything about him, how do you know that he's all those things??? It's such a stupid argument.

How can anyone who remotely follows politics not know a lot about Obama? The guy's written two books about himself! Every aspect of his career has been discussed at length. Every vote he has made, and every position he has taken has been discussed. What the heck is still left unknown?
So we should believe in NObama because we'll get to know him through 2 books he wrote about himself... Oh and... Wake up!!!
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