Dap!

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...'dark' side.

It seems reasonable to me that Obama will be our next president. As he will have accomplished that via the same process that gave us Reagan and Carter and everyone else, I'm good with that. I wasn't happy with Clinton, but, he did win. I can't expect my political opponents to ever accept the validity of my guys if I won't accept theirs. That doesn't mean they will, but I choose to not be as vitriolic as them which is why, as a conservative, I am usually happier than they are; I expect them to behave poorly or like kids.

Our system works. Messy as it is, it works.

Yes, it does. And when and if he becomes president - I'll be there working my tail off to get him out of there asap, as well as getting as many republican candidates elected to congress as I can.

And hey - I'm just posting stuff I read as I go through my normal daily reading site. There was a lot of stuff today that I thought was noteworthy. As always, your mileage may vary. I thought because while Obama may be all that and a bag of chips to the young people, (or other people) this kind of thing might turn off a great majority of people in the flyover section of the country. And they do vote.

Not to mention it was all good for the goose for the Dems to mention ad nauseum anything Dubya did.

[morningbell (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Bann

Have y'all heard about DAP?

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I saw the one Michelle gave him the other night when he claimed the nomination. She looked as if she was making more of a point at it than he was. She has a kind of defiant type of expression on her face.

"Dap" is sooooooo 03'

Originally Posted by This_person

Be happy, it keeps people focused off of Larry's post directly before yours here.

As for me, I've done this for a long time, too. And I'm about as rural midwest, balding, aging white guy as you get.

Good point! Do you think Obama and his campaign are sitting around thinking "what stupid issue can we toss to the Republicans today to keep them distracted from the real issues?"

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

Good point! Do you think Obama and his campaign are sitting around thinking "what stupid issue can we toss to the Republicans today to keep them distracted from the real issues?"

Guess you got curious about it since you're posting in the thread.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Bann

I thought because while Obama may be all that and a bag of chips to the young people, (or other people) this kind of thing might turn off a great majority of people in the flyover section of the country. And they do vote.

Not to mention it was all good for the goose for the Dems to mention ad nauseum anything Dubya did.

...Obama will be a mistake as President. However, I didn't think W would be. Yet, I think has turned out to be just awful and I am sure he has betrayed conservative principles of government and that got us where we are. That leaves me in a position of being sad for the country that we're going to have to go through this because of the failures of my side. How do we avoid that? John McCain is not going to, based on his record, be what we need.

I'm just beaten down as to what has become of us.

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...Obama will be a mistake as President. However, I didn't think W would be. Yet, I think has turned out to be just awful and I am sure he has betrayed conservative principles of government and that got us where we are. That leaves me in a position of being sad for the country that we're going to have to go through this because of the failures of my side. How do we avoid that? John McCain is not going to, based on his record, be what we need.

I'm just beaten down as to what has become of us.

Aww. I really respect your views and look forward to reading them (and the views of some others!) here in the forums.

I just have a different outlook of what Bush has done in his 2 terms, what it means to me, the future of the country, etc. I don't agree with everything in the past 8 years that our Republican leaders have done. But I have a few core issues that I look at in particular and when I look back overall I don't see as negative a picture as some do. Our country is made up of many people, not just one group. I don't think any president can please all the people all the time. Overall, in totality - I think GW Bush is one of the best presidents we've ever had and thank God every day he was president on 9-11. I'm not a pollyanna (ok, maybe I am!) but I really do feel like this. And he's had to make a lot of decisions knowing what he had to work with in the congress - with both sides of the aisle.

That said - I don't agree that Obama or Clinton (or anyone else the Dems have to offer) will be the answer in the next 4 years either. However, if the country votes the Democratic Party candidate (whomever he or she may be) for president, I'll accept it. I won't like it and will work hard to change it, but I still think the people of this country will stand up for what's right in the long run. I don't feel the Dems will win in November, but that's just me.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Bann

. I don't feel the Dems will win in November, but that's just me.

...the fascinating part of this years race! I can make a case for Obama winning easy. I can make a case for him having no chance. Hell, I can still see how Hillary may yet get the nod at the convention if Obama, now that he has the nomination, gives Dems seriously cold feet. I can see McCain winning. I can see him losing by a landslide.

I appreciate your thoughts. It's gonna be interesting, that's for sure!

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

Good point! Do you think Obama and his campaign are sitting around thinking "what stupid issue can we toss to the Republicans today to keep them distracted from the real issues?"

No, I think they're just inexperienced and foolish, and stuff keeps happening.

I think the issues will come out shortly enough. A seasoned, reasoned candidate like McCain understands a huge portion of the voting block has the attention span of a gnat, so there's little point in bringing up too many issues too soon, as they'll be forgotten by Nov.

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...Obama will be a mistake as President. However, I didn't think W would be. Yet, I think has turned out to be just awful and I am sure he has betrayed conservative principles of government and that got us where we are. That leaves me in a position of being sad for the country that we're going to have to go through this because of the failures of my side. How do we avoid that? John McCain is not going to, based on his record, be what we need.

I'm just beaten down as to what has become of us.

Have you looked at Barr? When one realizes that Obama will not be good as president, and McCain won't be any better, then the obvious choice is Bob Barr. This is going to be a two-party election: Republocrats vs. Libertarians.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

Have you looked at Barr? When one realizes that Obama will not be good as president, and McCain won't be any better, then the obvious choice is Bob Barr. This is going to be a two-party election: Republocrats vs. Libertarians.

...like Ron Paul. Apparently, Barr has some rather rank hypocrisy going on about abortion.