Obama policy: Kill Aerospace

[drmatsci]

I am no fan of Bush, but here, I'll prove I am no fan of Obama either.
Since aerospace is a huge field down here in Somd, maybe this will offer some impact.

The passage of relevance here: “The early education plan will be paid for by delaying the NASA Constellation Program for five years,” among other steps.

This has actually been out there since last year, but no one seems to talk about it. There are more details, such as he stated he wasn't going to cancel the Ares I but to 'delay' the moon and mars capability.

I suspect he was talking out of his butt for a large number of reasons, but for starters, you don't 'delay' or pause large contracts like this one. The contractor is going to sit for 5 years and pay its employees. Also, like many aerospace contracts, this one has a ton of employees spread through several battleground states. I find it difficult to believe congress / senetors of those states would let this roll. But where has the press been?

That's just one example of stupidity.

[The Oyster Guy]

NASA's Constellation Program is about putting a man on Mars.

Given the current economic conditions, I'd say delaying the program 5 years is only prudent...
We're talking about a 70 million mile voyage; at $4/gal for gasoline, that rocketship is gonna cost us taxpayers a fortune!!!

[drmatsci]

You missed my point - yes, it is about putting a man (or woman!) on mars (after the moon again). You can't partially fund part of the program and 'delay' part of it and expect that situation to work. My point is he has no understanding of budget and contracts. You can't "delay" something like that... And speaking of economy, you have no idea how many jobs are tied to the aerospace industry. That would be a major blow to the economy. In some ways, aerospace is one of the last major american areas. Boeing, lockheed, Ratheon, Nothrop, etc etc employ a ton of workers who feed money back into the economy.

Besides, if you want to save money, cut social security. Its not like i'll see a dime I am paying in.

I know there are always space haters and space lovers, so that's not the debate (on whether its a waste) the debate is whether Obama understands what he is doing... NO!

(By the way, current NASA plan uses transfer of momentum by throwing democrats overboard to get the craft to mars, no gas needed!)

[aps45819 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by The Oyster Guy

NASA's Constellation Program is about putting a man on Mars.

Given the current economic conditions, I'd say delaying the program 5 years is only prudent...
We're talking about a 70 million mile voyage; at $4/gal for gasoline, that rocket ship is gonna cost us taxpayers a fortune!!!

I'd prefer my tax money be spent on the exploration of our solar system rather than paying hood rats in Baltimore to pass a math test.

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by The Oyster Guy

NASA's Constellation Program is about putting a man on Mars.

Given the current economic conditions, I'd say delaying the program 5 years is only prudent...
We're talking about a 70 million mile voyage; at $4/gal for gasoline, that rocketship is gonna cost us taxpayers a fortune!!!

And by delaying for 5 years (yeah right DELAY!!) how many THOUSANDS of people are you going to unemploy?

And then when they start back up again all these companies have lost their brain trusts.. their knowledge base will be gone, and they'll (we) will have to pay HUGE money to try to get them back. ALl materials manufactured to that point, after being delayed for 5 years, will be of no use, because who'll be paying for the environmentally controlled storage? It will all be out in someone's backlot and be totally useless IF they ever start it back up again.

And for what purpose? Your going to tell this Astrophysicist with 30 years of experience that he lost his job because you wanted to make sure little Sally could be schooled at the age of 4 because her parents are worthless pieces of crap that can't be bothered to teach their own kids the ABC's..

[quote=drmatsci;3002084]I am no fan of Bush, but here, I'll prove I am no fan of Obama either.
Since aerospace is a huge field down here in Somd, maybe this will offer some impact.



This has actually been out there since last year, but no one seems to talk about it. There are more details, such as he stated he wasn't going to cancel the Ares I but to 'delay' the moon and mars capability.

I suspect he was talking out of his butt for a large number of reasons, but for starters, you don't 'delay' or pause large contracts like this one. The contractor is going to sit for 5 years and pay its employees. Also, like many aerospace contracts, this one has a ton of employees spread through several battleground states. I find it difficult to believe congress / senetors of those states would let this roll. But where has the press been?

That's just one example of stupidity.[/QUOTE




I need to go home. I read this as Obama wanted to kill Aerosmith.

[Bavarian]

This should put the kibosh on those people who think Hussein Obama is another JFK!
The space exploration is one of the few good uses of Federal money.

Live long, and prosper!

[The Oyster Guy]

Maybe somebody will get the joke this time... Perhaps we should send a spaceship to uranus... Ba-da-boom!

Honestly, who in SoMD is working on the Constellation, or for that matter, any space program? Nobody.

So the only benefit I receive from this program is higher taxes... Actually, it's my kids that'll pay for all this nonsense, because the republicans spend money we don't have, and just add it to the national debt. That's why I'm no longer a republican - they're just like democrats, but better liars.

[gumbo (Premo)]

Man walking on the Moon......
Unless you were an employee of NASA or an employee of a contractor for NASA, walking on the frickin moon hasn't benefited one tax paying American citizen.

Is the cure for cancer on Mars?
Is there a cheaper alternative for fuel on Mars?
Is the answer to global warming on Mars?
Can we suck all of our pollutants from Earth and send it to Mars?

Satellites have been the only benefit from outer space travel.
The rest has been nothing but a giant black hole sucking money from the hard working, tax paying American citizen.

If we took the same brain power and money spent trying to find a new planet to live and used it to make our planet better.
The possibilities are endless.

What a waste!

[wintersprings]

"Besides, if you want to save money, cut social security. Its not like i'll see a dime I am paying in. "

but but its a nice Ponzi scheme, born to failure, a Dem dream