John McCain's family values

[cwo_ghwebb]

Originally Posted by Lenny

But, to get back to the topic at hand.....


Frosty, you've once again blown it. Won't you ever learn? What am I saying, you cannot learn unless the DU dips it into your gourd.

The responses are educational. For me and hopefully Forestool, if he reads them. But being the troll he is, I doubt it.

[Bann (Premo)]

Wasn't the article posted according to information by a Ted Sampley? I posted responses about Ted Sampley including the links where I got the info. I also posted links to information about the author of that website. I also included links to a source of information about Ross Perot.

When I post opinions & replies, they are worded accordingly. When I post information I find elsewhere - I link to it.

Originally Posted by Sonsie

For anyone who hasn't read it here is a great read that originally appeared in the May 14, 1973 issue of U.S.News & World Report.


John McCain, Prisoner of War: A First-Person Account
By John S. McCain III, Lieut. Commander, U.S. Navy

That's too funny!!! Here's a reputable piece of reporting from the time, and it offers a truly unbiased and honest first-person view of McCain's story. And it must all be true because McCain wrote it himself.

Fox watching the hen house alert!

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

That's too funny!!! Here's a reputable piece of reporting from the time, and it offers a truly unbiased and honest first-person view of McCain's story. And it must all be true because McCain wrote it himself.

Fox watching the hen house alert!

Who says it's unbiased? Is it being said it's coming from other than the source?

Did he write you a bad eval, or something?

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

Who says it's unbiased? Is it being said it's coming from other than the source?

Did he write you a bad eval, or something?

Must have been something like that! Someone near to McCain, or under him - must have p'd in his cornflakes at one time or another. Or maybe he knows Ted Sampley or knows someone else who does. He sounds an awful lot like him.

It's funny how people want to blindly accept all the inconsistencies of John McCain's alledged life history. This guy has a well documented history of being disloyal and looking out for himself. Starting with his verification of how he tossed his best friend from high school under the bus, to disrespecting his father and grandfather by being one of the worst students at the USNA, to throwing the Religious Right under the bus in 2000, to trying to throw the Republican party under the bus in 2001, to tossing free speech under the bus, Bill Frist under the bus, and on and on. Yet... we are supposed to believe that while he was a POW, he suddenly changed and suspended his "me first" attitude. That he didn't toss wife #1 under the bus to get a better wife.

Please... get real. It seems most Republicans are wanting to ignore all the stories of McCain's conduct as a POW. The guy has admitted that he violated the COC, and now that he is actively making his time as a POW a campaign issue, the truth is going to come out about exactly what he did.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

It's funny how people want to blindly accept all the inconsistencies of John McCain's alledged life history. This guy has a well documented history of being disloyal and looking out for himself. Starting with his verification of how he tossed his best friend from high school under the bus, to disrespecting his father and grandfather by being one of the worst students at the USNA, to throwing the Religious Right under the bus in 2000, to trying to throw the Republican party under the bus in 2001, to tossing free speech under the bus, Bill Frist under the bus, and on and on. Yet... we are supposed to believe that while he was a POW, he suddenly changed and suspended his "me first" attitude. That he didn't toss wife #1 under the bus to get a better wife.

Please... get real. It seems most Republicans are wanting to ignore all the stories of McCain's conduct as a POW. The guy has admitted that he violated the COC, and now that he is actively making his time as a POW a campaign issue, the truth is going to come out about exactly what he did.

Who's going to fault someone for their conduct as a prisoner of war in a ruthless camp 30 years ago, when we can fault a man for being a racist socialist today?

[Lenny]

Originally Posted by Bruzilla

It's funny how people want to blindly accept all the inconsistencies of John McCain's alledged life history. This guy has a well documented history of being disloyal and looking out for himself. Starting with his verification of how he tossed his best friend from high school under the bus, to disrespecting his father and grandfather by being one of the worst students at the USNA, to throwing the Religious Right under the bus in 2000, to trying to throw the Republican party under the bus in 2001, to tossing free speech under the bus, Bill Frist under the bus, and on and on. Yet... we are supposed to believe that while he was a POW, he suddenly changed and suspended his "me first" attitude. That he didn't toss wife #1 under the bus to get a better wife.

Please... get real. It seems most Republicans are wanting to ignore all the stories of McCain's conduct as a POW. The guy has admitted that he violated the COC, and now that he is actively making his time as a POW a campaign issue, the truth is going to come out about exactly what he did.

How do you keep from falling on your ass with all that spinning? Speaking of azz, you certainly are making one of yourself today.

[MMDad]

Originally Posted by Lenny

How do you keep from falling on your ass with all that spinning? Speaking of azz, you certainly are making one of yourself today.

It's not just today. He does it pretty much every day.

Bruzilla, your rabid attacks on McCain make me think you really are scared of him. Since you've shown yourself to be a true socialist, it makes me think that you are worried that McCain is not socialist enough for you.

Your attacks have taken me from undecided firmly into McCains camp. Congratulations.

By the way, what qualifies a ten year E-5 to criticize McCain's service?

Originally Posted by This_person

Who's going to fault someone for their conduct as a prisoner of war in a ruthless camp 30 years ago, when we can fault a man for being a racist socialist today?

As I've said time and time again... what a guy does to stay alive as a POW is his business and he shouldn't be faulted for it. But, if a guy starts using his time as a POW, and his conduct during that time, as a campaign issue, then that's a different story. For decades, McCain has always quelched any discussion of his POW status during elections, and I felt it was wrong when some folks tried to bring up his violations of the COC back in 2000. But now McCain has started using his POW status as a reason to vote for him, and his first ad prominantly touts his time as a POW.

If you're going to say "vote for me because I was a POW and served honorably" then you're putting the details of how you served into play. I see this as the same as when John Kerry wanted to run on his time in the Navy, but then didn't want to discuss the good and the bad of his time in service. He just wanted everyone to focus on his medals, and not how he came to get them, and it doesn't work that way. If McCain wants to run on having been a POW, then people should know exactly how he conducted himself as a POW. And if the reports from the mid-80s are correct, and McCain did do a lot more than just sign confessions, then people ought to know that.