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Old 06-09-2008, 10:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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John McCain's family values

Just a typical republican...
Ted Sampley, who fought with US Special Forces in Vietnam and is now a leading campaigner for veterans’ rights, said: ‘I have been following John McCain’s career for nearly 20 years. I know him personally. There is something wrong with this guy and let me tell you what it is – deceit.

‘When he came home and saw that Carol was not the beauty he left behind, he started running around on her almost right away. Everybody around him knew it.

‘Eventually he met Cindy and she was young and beautiful and very wealthy. At that point McCain just dumped Carol for something he thought was better.

‘This is a guy who makes such a big deal about his character. He has no character. He is a fake. If there was any character in that first marriage, it all belonged to Carol.’...

But Ross Perot, who paid her medical bills all those years ago, now believes that both Carol McCain and the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel – even by the standards of modern politics.

‘McCain is the classic opportunist. He’s always reaching for attention and glory,’ he said.

‘After he came home, Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona. And the rest is history.’
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Old 06-09-2008, 10:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Just a typical republican...
Ted Sampley, who fought with US Special Forces in Vietnam and is now a leading campaigner for veterans’ rights, said: ‘I have been following John McCain’s career for nearly 20 years. I know him personally. There is something wrong with this guy and let me tell you what it is – deceit.

‘When he came home and saw that Carol was not the beauty he left behind, he started running around on her almost right away. Everybody around him knew it.

‘Eventually he met Cindy and she was young and beautiful and very wealthy. At that point McCain just dumped Carol for something he thought was better.

‘This is a guy who makes such a big deal about his character. He has no character. He is a fake. If there was any character in that first marriage, it all belonged to Carol.’...

But Ross Perot, who paid her medical bills all those years ago, now believes that both Carol McCain and the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel – even by the standards of modern politics.

‘McCain is the classic opportunist. He’s always reaching for attention and glory,’ he said.

‘After he came home, Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona. And the rest is history.’
Forestal, you make me puke everytime I read your screwed up posts. Have you seen this one about Barack Husain Obama?

Eyeblast.tv - A Video Portrait Of Barack Hussein Obama

You are so pathetic and screwed up, but don't take my word for it. Just look in the mirror. You are simply a waste of human flesh.
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Old 06-09-2008, 11:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yeah idiot and the DemoRat Clinton used the White House Oval office to moisten his cigars using an intern...

Keep digging, hopefully the walls will cave in on you...


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Just a typical republican...
Ted Sampley, who fought with US Special Forces in Vietnam and is now a leading campaigner for veterans’ rights, said: ‘I have been following John McCain’s career for nearly 20 years. I know him personally. There is something wrong with this guy and let me tell you what it is – deceit.

‘When he came home and saw that Carol was not the beauty he left behind, he started running around on her almost right away. Everybody around him knew it.

‘Eventually he met Cindy and she was young and beautiful and very wealthy. At that point McCain just dumped Carol for something he thought was better.

‘This is a guy who makes such a big deal about his character. He has no character. He is a fake. If there was any character in that first marriage, it all belonged to Carol.’...

But Ross Perot, who paid her medical bills all those years ago, now believes that both Carol McCain and the American people have been taken in by a man who is unusually slick and cruel – even by the standards of modern politics.

‘McCain is the classic opportunist. He’s always reaching for attention and glory,’ he said.

‘After he came home, Carol walked with a limp. So he threw her over for a poster girl with big money from Arizona. And the rest is history.’
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Old 06-09-2008, 11:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I find it hysterical when some FOB wants to discuss John and Cindy McCain's marriage.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Just a typical republican...

Ted Sampley, who fought with US Special Forces in Vietnam and is now a leading campaigner for veterans’ rights, said: ‘I have been following John McCain’s career for nearly 20 years. I know him personally. There is something wrong with this guy and let me tell you what it is – deceit.
Ted Sampley is a real piece of work.

For anyone who cares to read - I found these tonight: (some of it might sound vaguely familiar to frequent visitors to the politics forum.)

Ted Sampley Revealed - gotta read this page to believe it. Too much to post here.
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A former Green Beret with multiple Bronze Star awards from Vietnam, Sampley has the outward appearance of the stereotypical downtrodden veteran outfitted by the local Army surplus store. But he is in fact a savvy businessman who is forth- right about earning money off "the cause" and is a key figure in the MIA issue.

Unlike his colleagues who uncover POW "evidence" and solicit funds to embark on rescue missions, Sampley specializes in media manipulation and public relations. He has been invaluable to the activists, who rely on him to fan the flames of existing MIA stories, either through phone calls to legitimate journalists or on the pages of his own newspaper broadsheet, U.S. Veteran News and Report. In addition to his work in support of fellow activists, Sampley specializes in orchestrating stunts that are dramatic and at times dangerous.

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Whence the Attacks on John McCain?

Summary. For some years now there have been steady attacks on the valor and patriotism of Senator John McCain (Republican, Arizona). McCain was a Navy aviator, shot down over North Vietnam on 26 October 1967 and released at Operation Homecoming in March 1973. He was severely injured in his ejection and landing and endured unspeakable tortures. The attacks on McCain originate almost entirely from a small number of Vietnam veterans. Many of his attackers accuse him of collaborating with his Vietnamese captors, in spite of testimony from other POWs as to his bravery, leadership, and valorous conduct. Why and from where come the attacks on McCain? The source of the attacks on McCain is, mainly, one MIA "activist" who accuses McCain of treasonous activities; his accusations are based on misquotes, misrepresentations, and Vietnamese wartime propaganda. Yet, this story has gained the status of gospel among the McCain haters and the MIA "activists." Read on for the rest of the story.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:57 AM   #6 (permalink)
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From Joe Schlatter's page on Ted Sampley, he writes:

"Summary.

In my discussion of the attacks on Senator John McCain, I rely on work published by Ms. Susan Katz Keating in her book Prisoners of Hope: Exploiting the POW-MIA Myth in America. Ms. Keating, while she was a reporter for the Washington Times, was convinced that live American POWs remained in Vietnam. As time went on and she became more and more acquainted with the issue, she discovered the facts of the charlatans who take advantage of MIA families and who flim-flam the public, as well as discovering that the US government could have done a better job of managing the issue."


From Susan Katz Keating's Blog about Ross Perot:

Friday, January 18, 2008
Former POW's Letter to Newsweek

I don't often do this, but today's first post received a comment that I'm going to repost and highlight. The comment comes from Dr. Hal Kushner, a former Army flight surgeon who spent five and half years in captivity in Vietnam. Kushner has written to Newsweek's Jonathan Alter in response to Alter's article quoting Ross Perot slamming John McCain. Kushner is not happy about Perot's charges that ex-POWs shun McCain, and wants to set the record straight. He posted a copy of his letter to Newsweek as a comment on this blog. I think it deserves a highlight.

Background on Hal: He was captured in 1967, and was held for four years in a camp in Quang Nam in the south. In 1971, he was force-marched for 57 days to Hanoi, and was later released from there. As I wrote in Prisoners of Hope, Kushner estimated that the mortality rate among POWs held in the south was 45 percent. From my book:

"He was not officially allowed to treat his fellow prisoners but did what he could surreptitiously. In extreme cases, the Viet Cong let him help obviously dying men. The Viet Cong's medicine - caffeine, aspirin, and epinephrine - was useless. Ten POWs died in Kushner's arms at Quang Nam."

I write this to show that Kushner knows fully well of what he speaks. Here is how he responded to Ross Perot's accusations against John McCain:

(see link below for his letter to smarmy Jonathan Alter)
Susan Katz Keating: Ross Perot
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Old 06-10-2008, 01:26 AM   #7 (permalink)
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For anyone who hasn't read it here is a great read that originally appeared in the May 14, 1973 issue of U.S.News & World Report.


John McCain, Prisoner of War: A First-Person Account
By John S. McCain III, Lieut. Commander, U.S. Navy
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:50 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Separations are difficult on families. While stationed in Hawaii as a Direct Support Subsurface Division Chief, our divorce rate was directly proportional to our deployment rate of nearly 80%. Sad but reality sometimes sucks.
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Separations are difficult on families. While stationed in Hawaii as a Direct Support Subsurface Division Chief, our divorce rate was directly proportional to our deployment rate of nearly 80%. Sad but reality sometimes sucks.

This is true.

In all these years, Carol Shepp McCain has refused to do media interviews about her 2nd husband. That Carol herself has never spoken publicly on her ex-husband except to endorse him - is very telling. Indeed, her 2 sons, whom McCain adopted when he married her, also endorse & support him. OH of course, they had their fights and family problems over the divorce - but apparently, they've moved on beyond that.

So, instead of having actual words of Carol's to print, the media has surmised, twisted others' words and/or flat out made up things to print.
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:26 AM   #10 (permalink)
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But, to get back to the topic at hand.....


Frosty, you've once again blown it. Won't you ever learn? What am I saying, you cannot learn unless the DU dips it into your gourd.
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