Carter's Speech on Energy

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[This_person]

Originally Posted by Toxick

I know there's a video there. But I don't know what it is or what it's about.




Has it been officially announced that a great many people (at work) cannot see you-tube videos, and that a response which consists only of an embedded youtube video looks like a great white hole?

Sorry, I can't at work, either

It's a video about a car that runs (mostly) on water (HHO, the guy calls it, instead of H2O)

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Dixie

Trust me - if we had decent mass transit in this area I'd have been using it years ago. I mean can you imagine getting on a bus to get to a subway that takes you to Baltimore or DC? I'd be gone all the time - I just hate driving anywhere when I'm no familiar with the area. I'd still have my car (and it is fuel efficient) - I'd have to - I have a child with disabilities - but going to work? I'd have been using the hell out of it years ago and I'd be willing to bet that many people that don't have that option would be also.

but you and the three other people that would use it would not make it economically (nor environmentally) worth it.

I'm a product of the 60's - If I had been college-educated I would have joined the Peace Corps in a heartbeat. At one point I actually worked on Paul Sarbanes campaign and stayed up all night in the party that was held when he won and sat with others and watched Jimmy Carter make his victory speech. Didn't follow politics much after that and all the things everyone said about him, still says about him, I guess. Feel free to make fun, I thought he was a peaceful, intelligent, thinking man back then and I still think of him that way and very much admire the person he has become. That's my thoughts though, practically no one else I know agrees with me and I don't really care.

I wasn't trying to argue or make fun, I'd just never met anyone that thought he was a worthwhile president - no one conservative OR liberal - so I thought I'd hear what you had to say. The fact that you didn't follow politics once he was elected tells me all I needed to know about why you like him - you didn't pay attention to what kind of president he was.

Originally Posted by This_person

but you and the three other people that would use it would not make it economically (nor environmentally) worth it.
I wasn't trying to argue or make fun, I'd just never met anyone that thought he was a worthwhile president - no one conservative OR liberal - so I thought I'd hear what you had to say. The fact that you didn't follow politics once he was elected tells me all I needed to know about why you like him - you didn't pay attention to what kind of president he was.

Uh huh. Me and three other people that may be posting but I'll bet there are plenty more of us.

I really don't know how someone being a good president or a bad president equates to whether I like them or not. Whatever happened in the past, is past and I never stated that I liked him as a president - I really wouldn't have known. I simply said I like Jimmy Carter. Back then my opinion was that he was an intelligent, thinking, peaceful man. I still feel that way and I tend to judge people by their actions rather than what others think. I very much admire the man he turned out to be.

Who knows? I might even change my opinion on Bush one day.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Dixie

Uh huh. Me and three other people that may be posting but I'll bet there are plenty more of us.

My point was that if people aren't using it to go to work most days, it's really useless. So, unless you can urbanize how people live, you'd be wasting fuel with inefficient vehicles for few, if any, passengers. You talked about using it for pleasure trips. That's not where the bulk of transportation goes, so it would be more of a waste than a help.

I really don't know how someone being a good president or a bad president equates to whether I like them or not. Whatever happened in the past, is past and I never stated that I liked him as a president - I really wouldn't have known. I simply said I like Jimmy Carter. Back then my opinion was that he was an intelligent, thinking, peaceful man. I still feel that way and I tend to judge people by their actions rather than what others think. I very much admire the man he turned out to be.

Who knows? I might even change my opinion on Bush one day.

I judge people on their actions also. Carter's most significant actions have been his presidency, and post-presidency. In that time, he managed to greatly damage the United States on many different levels.

However, I understand five days a year he does a photo op of helping people build houses they otherwise wouldn't have. That's a good thing for him. If he stayed home and kept his mouth shut the other 360 days per year, I'd probably like him a lot more.

Originally Posted by This_person

My point was that if people aren't using it to go to work most days, it's really useless. So, unless you can urbanize how people live, you'd be wasting fuel with inefficient vehicles for few, if any, passengers. You talked about using it for pleasure trips. That's not where the bulk of transportation goes, so it would be more of a waste than a help.I judge people on their actions also. Carter's most significant actions have been his presidency, and post-presidency. In that time, he managed to greatly damage the United States on many different levels.

However, I understand five days a year he does a photo op of helping people build houses they otherwise wouldn't have. That's a good thing for him. If he stayed home and kept his mouth shut the other 360 days per year, I'd probably like him a lot more.

I doubt seriously if he cares whether you like him a lot, I certainly don't.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Dixie

I doubt seriously if he cares whether you like him a lot, I certainly don't.

I doubt seriously if he cares whether either of us like him at all. I wasn't discussing what he cares about, I was discussing him, with you.

Clearly, I shouldn't have been.