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Old 06-19-2008, 11:25 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I have this festering feeling of dread about the next 10 years I just cant shake...I think we are really going to be in for some tough times as a nation.
About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new
constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor
at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall
of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist
as a permanent form of government.'

'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters
discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public
treasury.'

'From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates
who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the
result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose
fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.'

'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the
beginning of history, has been about 200 years'

'During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the
following sequence:

1. from bondage to spiritual faith;
2. from spiritual faith to great courage;
3. from courage to liberty;
4. from liberty to abundance;
5. from abundance to complacency;
6. from complacency to apathy;
7. from apathy to dependence;
8. from dependence back into bondage'
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:46 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Based on both your posting history, I bet if polled, most here (all races) would consider you two embarrassments to your race.





Oh and great post TH!!




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NO really, Go ahead, ask me........
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Old 06-19-2008, 10:48 PM   #53 (permalink)
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AHHHHHHH! who's gonna create the "head exploding" smilie for me? I will have to look into these ancient laws and principles too...Soooo much to learn so little time before the election. I must admit I slept much better at night when 'I just knew' I would be voting Obama...now that I start to research- it appears that...there are 10 sides to everything, and all the sides are open to interpretation and arguement and confusion.
For those of you still convicted in your choice...how do you stay there? Just not let any other option in? Feel it in your gut?
Has anyone been in my shoes and then found a way to stand rock solid and sure in your decision? HOW?
omgawsh...I cant even go back to being politically ignorant...after realizing all thats at stake now, it just seems morally irresponsible!


I think the last statement you made actually answers both of your first 2 questions! That you now know this about yourself - will help you make (and trust) those choices and stand solid. Always consider the source of the information you read and check out. Read viewpoints from both "sides" of an issue and you'll know which side you identify with.
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Old 06-20-2008, 10:10 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Very interesting post, Tomahawk. Your views are insightful and though I can't say I agree with many of them they are certainly a breath of fresh air.

However, in response to the claim that most black people are voting for Obama because he is black, I will go back a couple pages to agree with vraiblonde that blacks tend to vote party, not race, and that there is usually a reason that they vote for that party.

Also, don't assume that liberals are the only people to play to a common racial base to secure votes. During the congressional campaigns, both we, my grandmother, and several of my relatives (registered black voters, btw) received automated Michael Steele campaign phone calls advising us that the Republican party was the true way for black voters, and they, as black voters, should support him because he represented the ideals of black voters support the black politician, and break their ties with the original party of slavery (Democrats). Steele is not as free from race pandering as some of you think he is.

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