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Old 06-20-2008, 07:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sucks to lose to the dumbest President in history

Putting Obama and the Dems on the Defensive


Must suck to keep losing to the Chimp!

Putting Obama and the Dems on the Defensive

"One top Democratic lawmaker said the Democrats delayed the announcement by a couple of days, in part to give the presumptive nominee time to assess his position". Barack Obama is a man who wants to be President. Being President means that you have to be able to make split second decisions, yet Obama needed a few days to figure out what his position was! Talk about not ready for prime time...

Cripe, better not have any ale tonight, I just might dig something else up and mess my trousers laughing at these losers.
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Old 06-20-2008, 11:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So now what we need is a president who makes snap decisions? And a president who is thoughtful and fully contemplates what he/she is about to do is a failure??? How deranged is ODS making some people! Do they really want a guy or gal who makes snap decisions with they finger on the button?

Also, this guy is all upset about Obama taking a few days to contemplate his position, but doesn't say a word about the FISA court needing up to 30 days to render a decision on a wiretap! Who are these judges... the Post Office? How many of these cases are coming in every day that these judges need up to 30 days to render a decision???
 
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Old 06-20-2008, 11:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Putting Obama and the Dems on the Defensive


Must suck to keep losing to the Chimp!

Putting Obama and the Dems on the Defensive

"One top Democratic lawmaker said the Democrats delayed the announcement by a couple of days, in part to give the presumptive nominee time to assess his position". Barack Obama is a man who wants to be President. Being President means that you have to be able to make split second decisions, yet Obama needed a few days to figure out what his position was! Talk about not ready for prime time...

Cripe, better not have any ale tonight, I just might dig something else up and mess my trousers laughing at these losers.
I know you're obsessed with slurping up Dubya every second you get, but posting opinion pieces as "fact" is sad. I know that's what most have you have been reduced to...but nobody with a brain is falling for it.



You're a chernmax mpd, aren't you? Yes...it IS that obvious.



An interesting side note. Anything that is seen as a Bush "victory", will soon be a tool that President Obama has at his disposal, unless he decides to kill it after he's elected. I wonder how geeked our Republican friends will be about that once/if the thought registers in their numb brains.
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If Obama doesn't get his head out of the asses of the environmentalists and start pushing for more oil and refineries, he isn't going to have to worry much about what he'll do with any of Bush's policies.
 
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:07 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If Obama doesn't get his head out of the asses of the environmentalists and start pushing for more oil and refineries, he isn't going to have to worry much about what he'll do with any of Bush's policies.
America doesn't need more wells, and the oil companies haven't built new refineries since the '70's.

By the time enough of either could be built and producing anything that hit our tanks, future technologies would have eliminated the need for the "extra" production.

I say leave it up to the states. If they want to invest in dying technology...let 'em.


Funny thing. Environmentalists are fighting for the environment, and oil companies are fighting for record profits.

Huh.



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Old 06-21-2008, 12:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Putting Obama and the Dems on the Defensive


Must suck to keep losing to the Chimp!

Putting Obama and the Dems on the Defensive

"One top Democratic lawmaker said the Democrats delayed the announcement by a couple of days, in part to give the presumptive nominee time to assess his position". Barack Obama is a man who wants to be President. Being President means that you have to be able to make split second decisions, yet Obama needed a few days to figure out what his position was! Talk about not ready for prime time...

Cripe, better not have any ale tonight, I just might dig something else up and mess my trousers laughing at these losers.
I guess we won't bring up the pre warning the bush administration had about the 911 attacks...
I guess I ought to vote for Mccain because I'm an ignorant gun toting bastard that believes the republicans will cut me some slack...
I guess the Democrats are gonna take my guns away, especially since the state with the best hunting opportunities are run by democrats,
Oh and a democratic governor just lifted a ban on silencers and automatic weapons in kansas....
I forgot to mention that Mccain promises tax benefits for the middle class,
although his middle class includes folks that make 200,000 a year...

Might wanna read something.
like FactCheck.org
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Old 06-21-2008, 04:04 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I guess we won't bring up the pre warning the bush administration had about the 911 attacks...
I guess I ought to vote for Mccain because I'm an ignorant gun toting bastard that believes the republicans will cut me some slack...
I guess the Democrats are gonna take my guns away, especially since the state with the best hunting opportunities are run by democrats,
Oh and a democratic governor just lifted a ban on silencers and automatic weapons in kansas....
I forgot to mention that Mccain promises tax benefits for the middle class,
although his middle class includes folks that make 200,000 a year...

Might wanna read something.
like FactCheck.org
We knew that al Qaeda was looking at hijacking airliners, but that was about it. So tell me... based on that limited bit o' info, what would you have done that Bush didn't? You sorta know the what, but not the where, when, or who. So what do you do?

McCain's record on gun control isn't much better than Obama's. If you're concerned about your guns you had best be voting for Barr.

McCain has admitted that he is ignorant about the economy, and he's as firm on tax cuts as warm jello hanging on a wall.
 
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America doesn't need more wells, and the oil companies haven't built new refineries since the '70's.

By the time enough of either could be built and producing anything that hit our tanks, future technologies would have eliminated the need for the "extra" production.

I say leave it up to the states. If they want to invest in dying technology...let 'em.


Funny thing. Environmentalists are fighting for the environment, and oil companies are fighting for record profits.

Huh.



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As has been pointed out again and again... the "it'll take years to see any benefit..." argument is worthless. Had we begun drilling in ANWR years ago, all those "... years to see any benefit..." would have already passed and we would already be enjoying the benefits. Yes, it will take five or more years to see any benefit, but if we don't get started then we'll never see a benefit.

As to alternative fuels, we've been told an effective alternative is right around the corner for the past 30+ years! We put moratoriums on new drilling back in the 1980s because by now we were all supposed to have access to low-cost fuel cell cars and gasoline would be relegated to the history books. Well, the restrictions on the oil exploration sure worked like a champ, but it looks like the green crowd was a bit overly optimistic about how soon those greenmobiles would be ready. Being duped once, should we really keep flogging ourselves with high gas prices for another five to ten years as we await that fabled greenmobile to finally arrive? I don't think I'm wanting to get suckered again. Low cost gas is a great thing, but even low cost gas isn't as cheap as distilled water that fuel cells will use, so once the fuel cells are available (if they ever are) they will replace gasoline engines just fine.

What's funny is the Greeners are fighting for the environment and in doing so are creating circumstances where the oil companies are making more profit than ever before. Even better, all the spending on alternative energy development that the Greeners are calling for is going right into the pockets of the oil and energy companies... and they wonder why R&D is going so slowly.
 
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Old 06-21-2008, 05:45 AM   #9 (permalink)
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As has been pointed out again and again... the "it'll take years to see any benefit..." argument is worthless. Had we begun drilling in ANWR years ago, all those "... years to see any benefit..." would have already passed and we would already be enjoying the benefits. Yes, it will take five or more years to see any benefit, but if we don't get started then we'll never see a benefit..
Exactly. All "it'll take years" tells me is that it SHOULD have been done ten years ago - you know, when we were talking about it. I went to high school in the 70's with a guy who drove around in his father's electric car prototype. Yup, 30 years gone by - when will we see it? Alternative fuel and energy will be a small comfort to people who need it today. It's like telling someone who's starving that they should have grown a garden.

And so far, alternatives like hybrids STILL need gas - and the savings are not earth-shaking. Offering coupons or vouchers sounds like an idea which will produce results right away - but who buys a new car anytime they feel like it? I'm just paying off my last one - it will cost MORE for me to get a new one even with some coupon program.

And thus far, no alternative fuel program I know of addresses the many other transportation problems we face in the short term. We're not going to be hauling freight and running heavy duty equipment on bio-diesel or flying planes on batteries.

I just don't see the reasoning behind opposing drilling.
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Even better, all the spending on alternative energy development that the Greeners are calling for is going right into the pockets of the oil and energy companies... and they wonder why R&D is going so slowly.
Because the bulk of their energy is going into opposing and blocking. They're not creating anything. Let the greenies invent something themselves - create solutions rather than roadblocks.
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