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Old 06-30-2008, 09:29 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Your heart is in the right place.

The short term fix while we develop alternative sources is to drill holes and build refineries like banshees. Then we have plenty of oil AND new technologies. Those fukcing towel heads can drink their precious oil. And since it doesn't grow in the desert, we can jack the chit out of food prices to those allah lovin bastards!!


I like it!!
I wonder if we can speculate on produce until those filthy unwashed oil slurping bastards are paying 50 bucks for a wrinkled tomato
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:59 PM   #72 (permalink)
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You really can't grasp the concept that it will become less expensive the more people use it?
not when physics of scale are involved. You can only make fuel for car's one or two ways, and no short cuts exist.

Now for a small razer, yes, for a whole fuel based system...well its been tried, and it don't work

Try looking at the physics first. Before you blabber about a fix that is not going to happen.
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:52 AM   #73 (permalink)
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You really can't grasp the concept that it will become less expensive the more people use it?
You mean, the more people *buy* it? Of course. How long will that take? I went through the case studies on your site. It takes decades to break even, and that's even with massive rebates and tax credits. Somehow the idea of saving a few hundred a year on my electric bill doesn't seem worth it.

And while I can see the cost of manufacture going down, I certainly don't see the cost of installation going anywhere but up. Not long ago I have some electrical work done in my house. Price of materials? Almost zero - some cables and a bit of hardware. Whole job was hundreds of dollars.

Even if the solar panels were totally free, I don't see their installation as saving me all that much in the long run. There's not a significant payoff.
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Old 07-01-2008, 08:27 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Have you seen a house with these things installed?? Ugly isnt the word.
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Have you seen a house with these things installed?? Ugly isnt the word.
True, but I've seen examples of solar shingling that doesn't look terrible. I suppose if it came as an option and I was into building a *new* home, I might be persuaded to have them put on. I'm not, however, going to drop a lot of money to replace the ones I have for a negligible drop in my electric bill.
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I always offer the shut me up provision, to the dumb blonds out there stuck in full reality retreat.

SHOW the math, where this makes any economic sense.
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I always offer the shut me up provision, to the dumb blonds out there stuck in full reality retreat.

SHOW the math, where this makes any economic sense.
I certainly hope you're not referring to me as the dumb blonde. Oh, and blonde has an "e" on the end. I'm not dumb and I'm certainly not a blonde. Like the website said, it makes economic sense for some people. All people? Nah, maybe not everyone. I've seen firsthand that wind and solar energy can work for people.

This will be my last post to you. I've got better things to do than sit around and argue (on the internet, no less) with someone that has his head stuck up his ass.
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I certainly hope you're not referring to me as the dumb blonde. Oh, and blonde has an "e" on the end.
It's either, both as a noun and an adjective, although the most common distinction is to use "blond" in reference to a male and "blonde" in reference to a female. But either is acceptable in either usage.
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It's either, both as a noun and an adjective, although the most common distinction is to use "blond" in reference to a male and "blonde" in reference to a female. But either is acceptable in either usage.
Well, I am a female.
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"I've seen firsthand that wind and solar energy can work for people."

I agree it can work if you have the sunlight. Just not in Maryland at $4.00 a gallon for gas, or .14$ for Utility power.

All I asked for was proof, in hard cold numbers, not some feel good, its going to work answer.

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