Pelosi Gives Impeachment Review The OK

[drmatsci]

Originally Posted by chernmax

Interrogator Shares Saddam's Confessions, Tells 60 Minutes Former Iraqi Dictator Didn't Expect U.S. Invasion - CBS News

Actually, a great article, thank you.
but it really just confirms that Iraq was not a threat at that time and that mislead or not, Bush was wrong. No Al qaeda. No WMD's. Trillions wasted. Yes, congress partook in the shame. But bush and his admin sold it. They should pay.

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by drmatsci

and a part of 9/11

Nope. Never did. Never never. Only morons surfing channels who only half-listened to The Daily Show think that. NEVER said they were part of it.

[Penn]

Originally Posted by drmatsci

Actually, a great article, thank you.
but it really just confirms that Iraq was not a threat at that time and that mislead or not, Bush was wrong. No Al qaeda. No WMD's. Trillions wasted.

Yes, congress partook in the shame. But bush and his admin sold it. They should pay.

So, you're saying Bush sold a bill of goods to Congress, and they bought it?

With all these distinguished men and women on Intelligence Committees, privy to all kinds of resources, information, etal., and noone could debunk his so-called "pack of lies" ?

Nope. So, failing that, they let down the USA and backed him! I suppose you could call all of them traitors, if I read you correctly.

Oh BTW, there were at least 6 other countries that attested to the fact(or position) that Saddam had WMDs. I guess they were all fooled too, huh?

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by Penn

So, you're saying Bush sold a bill of goods to Congress, and they bought it?

With all these distinguished men and women on Intelligence Committees, privy to all kinds of resources, information, etal., and noone could debunk his so-called "pack of lies" ?

Nope. So, failing that, they let down the USA and backed him! I suppose you could call all of them traitors, if I read you correctly.

Oh BTW, there were at least 6 other countries that attested to the fact(or position) that Saddam had WMDs. I guess they were all fooled too, huh?

Yup. Bush, the world's stupidest president, managed to *outsmart* them in a massive disinformation campaign in a brilliant con. Everyone from John Edwards, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton and John Kerry believed it. Going back to the 1998 invasion that almost happened - everyone believed it.

Or...

Saddam actually fooled all of them - several nations, intelligence organizations, Democrats, Republicans, etc with a deliberate campaign to lead people to THINK he had them - something he later would say he did on purpose - in an attempt to ward off attacks from both the United States and Iran. Because it was much cheaper to create the story than to actually engage in it and because he didn't think the United States would ever invade again. The reason he thwarted UNSCOM is he didn't want the world to actually KNOW he didn't have them.

[chernmax]

Originally Posted by drmatsci

Actually, a great article, thank you.
but it really just confirms that Iraq was not a threat at that time and that mislead or not, Bush was wrong. No Al qaeda. No WMD's. Trillions wasted. Yes, congress partook in the shame. But bush and his admin sold it. They should pay.

So what you're saying is the ''C" student chimp Bush outsmarted all the members of the House and Senate??? What does that say about their competence???

[This_person]

Originally Posted by drmatsci

Really? We found some WMD's in Iraq? Wow! I mussed have missed the news on that.... Its funny, because I remember bush telling us Iraq had WMD's and was a immediate threat to us as a country and a part of 9/11 and harbored terrorists. Well, I suppose Bush was right, Iraq does have terroists - NOW, not then. They have them NOW because they came there to fight our troops.

Heck, maybe your right, maybe his advisors all lied to him and Bush was just a idiot to believe them. But the 'buck stops' at his desk so he is still to be held accountable.

Bush didn't lie, nor did his advisors lie to him. They all looked at the evidence, the reports from other countries, the turnover they got from the Clinton administration, the misleads from Saddam himself, and came to a logical conclusion. Not finding weapons there still doesn't prove they weren't there. Remember the series of trains going to Syria?

So, the claim of lies from President Bush is simply unfounded. And, that has been proven repeatedly. Show me one, just one, objective investigation that has shown Bush lied.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by drmatsci

Actually, a great article, thank you.
but it really just confirms that Iraq was not a threat at that time and that mislead or not, Bush was wrong. No Al qaeda. No WMD's. Trillions wasted. Yes, congress partook in the shame. But bush and his admin sold it. They should pay.

Wrong is still in question, but most likely true.

That's very different from lying or misleading.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by cwo_ghwebb

Perjury led to his being disbarred, or did you forget?

True. And, in typical Clinton fashion, he forged a deal, and bought his license back.

[ImnoMensa]

Originally Posted by This_person

Bush didn't lie, nor did his advisors lie to him. They all looked at the evidence, the reports from other countries, the turnover they got from the Clinton administration, the misleads from Saddam himself, and came to a logical conclusion. Not finding weapons there still doesn't prove they weren't there. Remember the series of trains going to Syria?

So, the claim of lies from President Bush is simply unfounded. And, that has been proven repeatedly. Show me one, just one, objective investigation that has shown Bush lied.

Does it really matter how many investigations and facts reveal that Mr. Bush didnt lie. Liberals are going to believe what they want to believe or what they are told to believe by Code Pink, George Soros and Move-on.Org. Its not that they are ignorant of facts , they choose to ignore them, in their never ending pogram to impeach Mr. Bush because their Bubba got impeached.

Its a lot like the Florida vote when Mr. Bush beat Al Gore. How many military votes did democrats throw out and still say every vote should count? How many times were the votes counted and Mr. Bush won? Doesnt matter the dorks still say he was appointed.

Arguing with them and showing them facts only irritates them, that small piece of mush they call a mind is already made up and no amount of proof will change them.

[drmatsci]

Show me one, just one, objective investigation that has shown Bush lied.

Well, your version of 'objective' probably means a republican investigation and that would be a cold, cold day in hell.

But Bush lies:

What about those chemical weapon trailors they discovered shortly after the invasion? Bush said: WP, "Bush: 'We Found' Banned Weapons. President Cites Trailers in Iraq as Proof"

But of course, they were not. They were at best hydrogen production for bolloons, as confirmed and stated later by the CIA.

Or, one of bush's lackeys...

"I don't believe anyone that I know in the administration ever said that Iraq had nuclear weapons."
—Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, at a hearing of the Senate's appropriations subcommittee on defense, May 14, 2003

"We believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."
—Vice President Dick Cheney on NBC's Meet the Press, March 16, 2003

Or, "President Bush proclaimed that a report by leading economists concluded that the economy would grow by 3.3 percent in 2003 if his tax cut proposals were adopted. No such report exists."

Or, in 2004, the president claimed that he had said during the campaign that he would allow the federal budget to go into deficit in times of war, recession or national emergency but never imagined he would have a "trifecta." Actually, Mr. Bush never made such a campaign statement.

Its so easy to find Bush lies, I could go on and on.
In fact, you can find them on any politician! DUH! THEY ARE ALL LIARS!