McCain Fails Geography - Again!

[cwo_ghwebb]

Originally Posted by SamSpade

I haven't heard the time horizon phrasing. If it means what the JCS meant - that is, a timetable that is conditional upon events on the ground then I agree with that sentiment. The Fed raises and lowers interest rates based on such a scheme - they don't raise and lower it on a "timetable" but they can usually forecast what will happen given that events go a certain way.

The other point raised is that in some areas, al-Qaeda is the primary agitator, and increasingly they appear to be giving up on Iraq. In addition, the surge helped facilitate what they called the "oil spot" approach to securing a country - creating safe regions and letting them expand like an oil spot, until you secure the good faith of the people. In fact, the line of talk was more along the lines of - if al-Qaeda is giving up on Iraq, are they going to run to Afghanistan and start over? So it's more likely now that the principal agitators would be less likely to re-arm after a pullout. Iraq doesn't appear to be Lebanon.

As bin Laden declared Iraq the major front in their war, I guess they're claiming victory and advancing in reverse to Afghanistan. Now, if we can get the 47,000 Nato troops promised in April, that would be substantial.

Obama has said that as president he would increase the number of troops and aid in Afghanistan, but when given the opportunity to vote in the Senate to do just that, he voted against the bill. What does he think we should believe?

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by cwo_ghwebb

As bin Laden declared Iraq the major front in their war, I guess they're claiming victory and advancing in reverse to Afghanistan. Now, if we can get the 47,000 Nato troops promised in April, that would be substantial.

Obama has said that as president he would increase the number of troops and aid in Afghanistan, but when given the opportunity to vote in the Senate to do just that, he voted against the bill. What does he think we should believe?

You know, if Proxmire had run for President under the banner of "we're going to end government waste", I'd believe him, even if I wouldn't vote for him - because that's what he DID in office. He made a name for himself by doing that. Nobody would have believed Nixon would cozy up to China, or Sadat would go to Israel. They made their fame by DOING exactly the opposite.

I'd have believed anyone running for President on their promises if they had demonstrated having accomplished it in the past. It's something to go on. I don't believe Obama can "unite" people of different political factions beyond persuading them to vote for him, because he hasn't shown he can do it yet. I don't believe him on a lot of levels. Even if McCain promises something totally hare-brained, I do believe he'll do it. Cause he DOES do hare-brained sometimes.

[cwo_ghwebb]

Originally Posted by SamSpade

You know, if Proxmire had run for President under the banner of "we're going to end government waste", I'd believe him, even if I wouldn't vote for him - because that's what he DID in office. He made a name for himself by doing that. Nobody would have believed Nixon would cozy up to China, or Sadat would go to Israel. They made their fame by DOING exactly the opposite.

I'd have believed anyone running for President on their promises if they had demonstrated having accomplished it in the past. It's something to go on. I don't believe Obama can "unite" people of different political factions beyond persuading them to vote for him, because he hasn't shown he can do it yet. I don't believe him on a lot of levels. Even if McCain promises something totally hare-brained, I do believe he'll do it. Cause he DOES do hare-brained sometimes.

Agree on all levels!

[chernmax (Premo)]

Originally Posted by vraiblonde

BFD. Why is that even a freaking story??

It's the way the media wants to be fair to McCain by reporting stupid sh!t while NObama is on his world tour...

[cwo_ghwebb]

Originally Posted by chernmax

It's the way the media wants to be fair to McCain by reporting stupid sh!t while NObama is on his world tour...

I'd buy that last shirt on the far right if the Messiah was wearing one of the mushroom style styrofoam helmets with a pipe cleaner halo attached.