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Old 08-11-2008, 07:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why we need experience in the White House

I'd like this guy to run for the White House after he cleans up the socialist mess in Louisiana.

Bobby Jindal hits back at whining from the Barack Obama campaign over his response to Obama’s attack on Randy Scheuneman. On ABC’s This Week, Jindal was asked about a sharp retort from John McCain after Obama said that McCain was unduly influenced towards our ally because of Scheuneman’s prior work for the Republic of Georgia. Instead of taking that bait, Jindal pressed the experience advantage McCain has over Obama and why it mattered in this crisis:



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Jindal uses that as subtext to explain everything wrong with Obama’s response over the last 48 hours. Instead of scolding Russians for attacking Georgia, he told Georgia to exercise restraint as Russian bombers attacked their civilians. Instead of supporting an ally, Obama attacked McCain’s adviser for his previous work for Georgia, an attack supported by current lobbyists for Russia.

The issue shows me why Obama is not qualified to hold the position he seeks.
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He's interesting... First generation Indian-American,Roman-Catholic convert who helped deliver his third child. He is married to an Indian, which indicates that he is not totally against tradition but seems pretty devout in his religious choice.

He's pretty cool on his position with the big issues, with the exception of abortion.

I couldn't find anything on smaller stuff like urban sprawl and sex offenders. Oh wait, he voted FOR chemical castration of sex offenders

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Jindal uses that as subtext to explain everything wrong with Obama’s response over the last 48 hours. Instead of scolding Russians for attacking Georgia, he told Georgia to exercise restraint as Russian bombers attacked their civilians. Instead of supporting an ally, Obama attacked McCain’s adviser for his previous work for Georgia, an attack supported by current lobbyists for Russia.

The issue shows me why Obama is not qualified to hold the position he seeks.
The more reading I do on the South Ossetia war, I'm finding it harder to find a "good guy" on either side. It's easy to take offense against Russia as being a bully, but it's the same reaction people have to the United States when they take military action - they assume that the one with huge military is just pushing someone around.

As I read over the conflict over the past several years - this has been seething for quite some time now - it becomes easier to see why the Russians might intervene. Who's lying? It was only 17 years ago these guys were all Soviets. Are the Georgians attacking civilians and Russian citizens? Who's in the right?

Generally, I like Jindal although his marginal support of permitting the teaching of intelligent design in school has given me second thoughts.
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Generally, I like Jindal although his marginal support of permitting the teaching of intelligent design in school has given me second thoughts.
Do you mean religion?
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He's interesting... First generation Indian-American,Roman-Catholic convert who helped deliver his third child. He is married to an Indian, which indicates that he is not totally against tradition but seems pretty devout in his religious choice.

He's pretty cool on his position with the big issues, with the exception of abortion.

I couldn't find anything on smaller stuff like urban sprawl and sex offenders. Oh wait, he voted FOR chemical castration of sex offenders

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He also repealed a tax increase put in place by his predecessor on the people of Louisiana and is doing a great job turning that state around after decades of corruption...

Tax and Spend O'Malley is next on my chopping block!!! He must be voted OUT!!!
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Do you mean religion?
Intelligent design IS religion. I've never, ever heard it advanced by anyone who didn't cite either opposing the teaching of evolution or who wasn't a religious leader on some level. The only reason why people are pushing it at all is they think it's somehow different from "creation science".

Teaching religion AS science is not what I want in schools.

The best way to illustrate this is the same way I ask the question in other political discussions - would you want someone whose religion vastly differs from your own, doing the same thing you're doing? Say, for example, Hindus, Buddhists or Muslims comprised the majority in this country, and as opposition to evolution, they wanted THEIR religious teaching taught as science.

I'm totally, completely ok with teaching different religions - as religion. It's ok to teach this is what Muslims believe, or this is what Hindus believe and so on, provided it avoids bias or judgmentalism. Religious freedom doesn't just mean you get to practice your religion - it means others get to practice theirs, too.
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...not in favor of Jindal solely because of his age.

I've had my fill of young guys like W, 54, and Bubba 46, when they took office.

We need some wisdom and maturity back in there instead of these young, insecure males.
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...not in favor of Jindal solely because of his age.

I've had my fill of young guys like W, 54, and Bubba 46, when they took office.

We need some wisdom and maturity back in there instead of these young, insecure males.

Washington was 57.
Jefferson was also 57.
Lincoln was 52.
Teddy Roosevelt was 42.

That just about wraps it up for Mount Rushmore.

Age to me is no indicator of maturity, but accomplishments and character, are. And these guys had it in spades.
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Washington was 57.
Jefferson was also 57.
Lincoln was 52.
Teddy Roosevelt was 42.

That just about wraps it up for Mount Rushmore.

Age to me is no indicator of maturity, but accomplishments and character, are. And these guys had it in spades.
...crying out loud.

Jindal is 37 now and does the word 'context' count for anything? How about life expectancy, huh? Washington at 57 is not the same as 57 today. How about life experiences? How about commanding in battle? How about the hardships they endured growing up? How about the accomplishments of a Jefferson long before taking office? How about the age a person grew up in?

TR is the only one of the four who even remotely compares to our last couple of presidents; young, ambitious and reckless, and even then, TR's life experiences, from police commissioner to rough rider made for a man far more ready to govern than a part time law professor most noted for his personal appetites and running a bottom tier state nowhere or a 1/2 assed baseball executive that ran one of the smoothest running states in the nation.

Age is a critical factor in maturity. It is no guarantee any more than youth is guarantee of immaturity. But we're not talking guarantee here. We're talking probability.
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He also repealed a tax increase put in place by his predecessor on the people of Louisiana and is doing a great job turning that state around after decades of corruption...
But the Wiki article said he voted FOR a bill the would more than double legislative pay. Like most of those people don't already live in huge houses If I remember correctly, he was starting backpedal on that, stating he wasn't for it, but had resolved to let legislation run itself

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Intelligent design IS religion. I've never, ever heard it advanced by anyone who didn't cite either opposing the teaching of evolution or who wasn't a religious leader on some level. The only reason why people are pushing it at all is they think it's somehow different from "creation science".

Teaching religion AS science is not what I want in schools.

The best way to illustrate this is the same way I ask the question in other political discussions - would you want someone whose religion vastly differs from your own, doing the same thing you're doing? Say, for example, Hindus, Buddhists or Muslims comprised the majority in this country, and as opposition to evolution, they wanted THEIR religious teaching taught as science.

I'm totally, completely ok with teaching different religions - as religion. It's ok to teach this is what Muslims believe, or this is what Hindus believe and so on, provided it avoids bias or judgmentalism. Religious freedom doesn't just mean you get to practice your religion - it means others get to practice theirs, too.
I was half guessing. I have heard the term before but I thought it was used by people who aren't blind followers and more in to finding how The Creator became the many representations of God. I think most of the religion people practice is grapevine. IE, Someone a thousand years ago saw or wrote something and over time, and through men who wished to have power over something, it's morphed in to what it is now. Like gossip.

I'll have to read more on this because I see there's a lot more to it.

I liked your last comment. It's nice to know about what others believe, so long as you can do your own thing. I read the books for that CSM class on religion( the course was BORING ) and I noticed that the oldest religions fostered many similar religions, so I surmised that all religions are the same, only certain individuals changed and adapted them for their own use and to meet their own "needs".

The beauty of my faith is that I can pick and choose from any religion, what makes me feel good. I believe that the unnamed intelligence is the earth itself and we are all at the mercy of he beauty and rage. Until someone can control the weather and the tide, I'll stick with that.
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