CNN Report: Proves Obama Lied About Ayers

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by SamSpade

there's not a lot of evidence that Obama espouses some of his radical views.

But the case is, why would Ayers support him if he didn't?

Just as recent as the late 90's he claimed he wanted to do more, admitted to being involved int eh bombings, and STILL wants to overthrow our government for a socialist/ communist government.

WHY would this man throw his support behind ANY conventional politician, if he doesn't believe in our form of government?

Personally I think this speaks volumes about Obama. You don't back someone that doesn't have your same values and convictions, and you certainly don't kick off their political career in your living room if they aren't supporting what you support.

[bresamil]

Originally Posted by Beta84

can you tell me what happened in the world of current events when you were 8 years old?

Not only can I tell you the current events when I was 8, but things that happened decades and many tens of decades before I was ever born.

Those that do not know history are doomed to repeat it. Anyone that wishes to lead a country should know, at a minimum, that country's history even if they are ignorant of the history of the world.

[itsbob (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Beta84

I'm not as old as Obama, but can you tell me what happened in the world of current events when you were 8 years old?

Yes actually..

What would you like to know?

Would you like to know about the Baader Meinhopf, the Red Brigade (who Ayers fashioned the Weather Underground after)..


The PLO? Yasser Arafat?

1972 Munich Olympics?

Black Panthers?

Vietnam?

Kent State?


You see, you're from a different generation.. LOADED with 24 hour news channels.. Cartoons 24 hours a day.

OUR generation, we gathered around the TV after dinner and watched the local, then the network news. We didn't have Discover, or Dirty Jobs.

Hell, when I was 8, we had ONE channel, and watched whatever they decided to show us. 8 year old white boy watched SOOOOOOOUUUL Train at least once a week, it was on right after American Bandstand.

[PsyOps]

Originally Posted by tommyjones

all of your posts indicate that you think obama is the devil and McCain is flawless. Isn't that exactly the same thing you are claiming all the lefties are doing?

Its called politics, and from what i have seen on TV lately its only going to be getting dirtier. should be interesting.....

No one is implying McCain is flawless. But this connection alone with Ayres is a definite disqualifier. It takes a very small level of discernable connecting-the-dots with Ayres, Rezko, Wright, and Obama’s Senate voting record to realize how radically left this man is. Read that again… I’m not just saying left; I’m saying RADICALLY left.

McCain, having abandoned his conservative base, has at least sat in the middle; where average America is supposedly sitting. Again, a very small level of discernable research would reveal the difference between the two. Obama has been quite effective in covering this up. Americans are drinking this koolaid because the media refuses to expose this man for who he really is. Obama is going to get elected with a democrat controlled congress and America is going to get what they are asking for.

[Ken King (Premo)]

Originally Posted by SamSpade

Well, my grandad said a sure sign of age is when the President is YOUNGER than you, and Obama is a year younger than me.

You've *never* heard of him? I can understand why you might not have heard of the things he did prior to this campaign, but his name has been in the news regarding his relationship to Obama since at least last year during the primaries.

What primaries were last year? You just showed another sign of getting old.

[tommyjones]

Originally Posted by PsyOps

No one is implying McCain is flawless. But this connection alone with Ayres is a definite disqualifier. It takes a very small level of discernable connecting-the-dots with Ayres, Rezko, Wright, and Obama’s Senate voting record to realize how radically left this man is. Read that again… I’m not just saying left; I’m saying RADICALLY left.

McCain, having abandoned his conservative base, has at least sat in the middle; where average America is supposedly sitting. Again, a very small level of discernable research would reveal the difference between the two. Obama has been quite effective in covering this up. Americans are drinking this koolaid because the media refuses to expose this man for who he really is. Obama is going to get elected with a democrat controlled congress and America is going to get what they are asking for.

i just dont see it. i mean we have been talking about all these issues for months and none of them have grown any legs.

as for what what obama is going to give us, that sounds like a new thread

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by Ken King

What primaries were last year? You just showed another sign of getting old.

Oh, Ken, you do NOT want to go there. I'm not sure I *know* anyone older than you.

I was thinking debates, straw polls, and the nomination race itself which I in my confused mind tend to call "primary" - when Hillary and others were addressing this.

[Ken King (Premo)]

Originally Posted by SamSpade

Oh, Ken, you do NOT want to go there. I'm not sure I *know* anyone older than you.

I was thinking debates, straw polls, and the nomination race itself which I in my confused mind tend to call "primary" - when Hillary and others were addressing this.

And as such I was just pointing out another of the signs to you. Seems that you are "aging" mighty fast, youngster.

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by itsbob

But the case is, why would Ayers support him if he didn't?

If a renowned bigot endorses your campaign, does that make you a bigot? Same reasoning. People may hold position A, B, and C and espouse political philosophy D - but it doesn't mean the person they support and endorse coincides with all of those. I support McCain, but there's a TON of stuff we disagree on, and I'm mainly voting for him against Obama.

If Hamas endorses Obama, does that make him a terrorist - or does it just mean they formed an opinion, based on who's available? Does that mean his agenda coincides with theirs, or that he is more likely to allow them to advance their own without interference? It doesn't mean anything.

I personally think Pat Robertson has always, always been nuttier than a fruitcake, but I certainly wouldn't consider an endorsement by him to indicate that his candidate is on the same page with him.

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by Ken King

And as such I was just pointing out another of the signs to you. Seems that you are "aging" mighty fast, youngster.

As we all are, and we're all going to the same place. You're just closer to the finish line.