Hawaii Supreme Court asked to issue emergency writ

[aps45819 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Midnightrider

like i have said before. God himself could hand some of you a copy and you wouldn't beleive it was valid.

Send your $5 to hawaii and have them verify it for you......

Doesn't work that way. They won't send you somebodey else's birth certificate.


.... especially if it doesn't exist

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Midnightrider

the point is that he has produced. he shouldn't have to answer to every idiot and doubting thomas when he has his birth certificate posted on-line and has had it verified by more than one source.

so if i can show you a conservative source that says it is valid, what then?

He produced it as discovery in the Berg case?

I didn't know that. I don't think Berg or the judge involved know that either. You should tell them, so maybe they'll end the case.

[Midnightrider]

Originally Posted by mAlice

I don't need to see it myself. If he just presents it to whatever authority (judge?) he needs to solve the whole mystery, I'd be satisfied.

and then how many documents to how many judges with regards to how many compaintants?

and i guess he isn't worried about satisfying people that most likely wont be satisifed with a valid document. they will just switch to "he wasn't really born in the US", or some other such nonsense.

I am sure that if he is court ordered, and his appeals are denied, he will produce it to the requesting judge.

[Midnightrider]

Originally Posted by aps45819

Doesn't work that way. They won't send you somebodey else's birth certificate.


.... especially if it doesn't exist

Send your $5 to hawaii and have them verify it for you......

as i said, they will verify it exists for $5.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Midnightrider

and then how many documents to how many judges with regards to how many compaintants?

and i guess he isn't worried about satisfying people that most likely wont be satisifed with a valid document. they will just switch to "he wasn't really born in the US", or some other such nonsense.

I am sure that if he is court ordered, and his appeals are denied, he will produce it to the requesting judge.

One judge in one complaint would be a good start. After that he can default to "See Berg v Obama, Your Honor, and dismiss this frivolous lawsuit. And, please note my counter suit for legal costs in this matter."

[Midnightrider]

Originally Posted by This_person

On judge in one complaint would be a good start. After that he can default to "See Berg v Obama, Your Honor, and dismiss this frivolous lawsuit. And, please note my counter suit for legal costs in this matter."

he has posted it online. It has been verified by more than one source. YOU can get verification from the State of Hawaii that the record exists. i dont see why he should answer to any frivilous lawsuit that is only intended as a distraction.

As ken said, the berg case questions more than the certificate. so why would he produce anything knowing that documentation from the state will not settle the case.

[Ken King (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Midnightrider

he has posted it online. It has been verified by more than one source. YOU can get verification from the State of Hawaii that the record exists. i dont see why he should answer to any frivilous lawsuit that is only intended as a distraction.

As ken said, the berg case questions more than the certificate. so why would he produce anything knowing that documentation from the state will not settle the case.

Hawaii Law -

[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.
(a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

Seems you can get a birth certificate without being born there.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Midnightrider

he has posted it online. It has been verified by more than one source. YOU can get verification from the State of Hawaii that the record exists. i dont see why he should answer to any frivilous lawsuit that is only intended as a distraction.

To end the distraction

As ken said, the berg case questions more than the certificate. so why would he produce anything knowing that documentation from the state will not settle the case.

Exactly. If he can't answer the rest of it, it would be pretty dumb of him to answer what he may be able to answer. You're getting it!

[mAlice]

Originally Posted by Ken King

Hawaii Law -

Seems you can get a birth certificate without being born there.

Curiouser and curiouser.

[Dymphna]

Originally Posted by This_person

They actually have the documentation of Obama being admitted to school, as an Indonesian citizen - a requirement at that time to attend the schools he attended. And, there was no allowance for dual citizenship at the time.

The question is whether that constitutes sufficient documentation, and whether he's actually a citizen NOW, or an illegal alien.

But the fact that someone wrote the word "Indonesian" on a school form isn't proof that he actually had his citizenship changed. I understand his stepfather was an important person, they may just have pushed through the paperwork to get him in school as a favor. I think that the burden of proof would be on those claiming his citizenship was changed to seek out the Indonesian citizenship documents. If it never happened, then there wouldn't be any documents proving it never happened, so there would be no way for Obama to produce evidence that something never happened.