Does anyone else share my fears?

[BS Gal (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Qurious

Yes my second cousin died over there a year ago.
and since u wanna go there...please expand on your interest in his lack of military service. And compare his lack of military service during peacetime to the following who did not serve in time of war: Dick Cheney, Phil Gramm, Mitt Romney, Rudy Guliani, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, and Ted Nugent.

Do you have to serve in the military to be President? He said he considered it, that's it. Just about every 18 year old I knew "considered" it where I was from because it was a great way to pay for college and serve your country. My first boyfriend joined fresh outta high school and regrets every bit of it...lets stop putting an emphasis on the military as if I dont know without it most of u would be on welfare.

My father, father-in-law and two sons were in the military. It's important to me that someone that runs for president served in the military. They have fought for our country. Obama didn't. I am not on welfare and I wasn't in the military. That was a stupid comment. Why would I be on welfare? I don't even know anyone, personally, on welfare. Do you? Everyone I know works for a living.

[IrishGal]

Originally Posted by Qurious

Yes my second cousin died over there a year ago.
and since u wanna go there...please expand on your interest in his lack of military service. And compare his lack of military service during peacetime to the following who did not serve in time of war: Dick Cheney, Phil Gramm, Mitt Romney, Rudy Guliani, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, and Ted Nugent.

Do you have to serve in the military to be President? He said he considered it, that's it. Just about every 18 year old I knew "considered" it where I was from because it was a great way to pay for college and serve your country. My first boyfriend joined fresh outta high school and regrets every bit of it...lets stop putting an emphasis on the military as if I dont know without it most of u would be on welfare.

Dick Cheney, Phil Gramm, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, and Ted Nugent were all running for President? Heck, I wish I'd have known that! I could've voted for some Wango Tango!

And yes let's stop putting an emphasis on the military, because I am SURE that Qurious will look lovely in a burqa.

[Qurious]

lol @ it being a requirement all of a sudden for the president to have served in the military but not the vice president who will take over as president if anything were to happen.....u guys are funny.

[BOP]

Originally Posted by Qurious

Yes my second cousin died over there a year ago.
and since u wanna go there...please expand on your interest in his lack of military service. And compare his lack of military service during peacetime to the following who did not serve in time of war: Dick Cheney, Phil Gramm, Mitt Romney, Rudy Guliani, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, and Ted Nugent.

Do you have to serve in the military to be President? He said he considered it, that's it. Just about every 18 year old I knew "considered" it where I was from because it was a great way to pay for college and serve your country. My first boyfriend joined fresh outta high school and regrets every bit of it...lets stop putting an emphasis on the military as if I dont know without it most of u would be on welfare.

Something you may want to consider - please pay particular attention to the last category. You might want to open a spreadsheet to compare presidents who've served in the military (especially in the time of war), and those former military who served as president in a time of war. One of the hallmarks of our democracy is that the military is subordinate to the civilian leadership in our country. An immutable fact is that the largest expenditure (aside from handouts to countries other than our own) of our tax dollars goes to the military. Only someone who has served in the military can truly understand the importance of defence spending. Those who do not have that comprehension are the ones who invariably try to cut that funding - often to our nation's peril (Bill Clinton, anyone?).

Presidential Military Experience
Presidents who served in wars
* George Washington - Commander in Chief of Continental Army during the American Revolution.
* James Monroe - served in American Revolution
* Andrew Jackson - American Revolution, War of 1812, First Seminole War
* William Henry Harrison - Indian wars in the NW territory, War of 1812
* John Tyler - War of 1812
* Zachary Taylor - War of 1812, Black Hawk, Second Seminole, and Mexican wars
* Franklin Pierce - Mexican War
* James Buchanan - War of 1812
* Abraham Lincoln - Black Hawk War
* Andrew Johnson - Civil War
* Ulysses Grant - Mexican War, Civil War
* Rutherford Hayes - Civil War
* James Garfield - Civil War
* Chester Arthur - Civil War
* Benjamin Harrison - Civil War
* William McKinley - Civil War
* Theodore Roosevelt - Spanish-American War
* Harry Truman - WWI
* Dwight Eisenhower - WWII General
* John Kennedy - WWII
* Lyndon Johnson - WWII
* Richard Nixon - WWII
* Gerald Ford - WWII
* George Bush - WWII

Presidents who were in the military but who saw no action
* James Madison
* James Polk
* Millard Fillmore
* Jimmy Carter
* Ronald Reagan - kept out of combat due to bad eyesight
* George W. Bush

Presidents with no military experience
* John Adams
* Thomas Jefferson
* John Quincy Adams
* Martin Van Buren
* Grover Cleveland
* William Taft
* Woodrow Wilson
* Warren Harding
* Calvin Coolidge
* Herbert Hoover
* Franklin Roosevelt
* Bill Clinton

Presidents during wartime
* George Washington: war with Native Americans in Ohio
* Thomas Jefferson: Tripolitan War, 1800-1805, against the Barbary pirates
* James Madison - War of 1812, 1812-1814, against the British
* James Monroe - First Seminole War, 1817-1818
* Andrew Jackson - Black Hawk War, 1832
* Martin Van Buren - Aroostook War, 1839; Second Seminole War - ended 1842
* William Henry Harrison - Second Seminole War - ended 1842
* John Tyler - Second Seminole War - ended 1842
* James Polk - Mexican War
* James Buchanan - beginning of the Civil War
* Abraham Lincoln - Civil War, 1861-1865
* William McKinley - Spanish-American War, 1898; Boxer Rebellion, 1899-1900
* Woodrow Wilson - WWI, 1914-1918
* Warren Harding - formally concluded WWI
* Franklin Roosevelt - WWII, 1941-1945
* Harry Truman - conclusion of WWII, Korean War - 1950-1953
* Dwight Eisenhower - conclusion of Korean War
* John Kennedy - Bay of Pigs Invasion, 1961; beginning of Vietnam War
* Lyndon Johnson - Vietnam War, Dominican Republic, 1965
* Richard Nixon - Vietnam War
* Ronald Reagan - Grenada Invasion, 1983
* George Bush - Invasion of Panama, 1989-1990; Persian Gulf War, 1990-1991
* George W. Bush - War against the Taliban, Iraq, 2001 to present.

[jetmonkey]

If you listen closely you can hear this bird prophesicing the coming Opacalypse

[BOP]

Originally Posted by Qurious

lol @ it being a requirement all of a sudden for the president to have served in the military but not the vice president who will take over as president if anything were to happen.....u guys are funny.

Neither does Joe Biden. Rumor control central has it that he was 4F - ineligible for military service because of medical reasons.

Wonder if he had cyst on his butt. Wait, that was Rush, wasn't it?

[Dougstermd (Premo)]

Originally Posted by thatguy

it has been their country, just like it has been yours and mine

well put!

about the only thing I have read that made since all day

[BlueBird]

BOW DOWN WHITEY!!!!

MY MAN OBAMA WINS!!!

And yes I voted for him just because he's black.

This is my country now #####es.

BB

[backagain39]

Originally Posted by Qurious

i dont want my vote to be associated with that rubbish.

Ok here is a question for you....If you don't want to be associated with the black panthers then why in God's name would you vote in a President that has criminals, terrorists and racists among his friends, pastor and associations???? I really don't understand, did you just want a black man in the White House that bad..........I really really wish that Michael Steele had run, he has integrity unlike Obama.