What costs more?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

You're on the totalitarian side. I don't consider that 'good'.

That the things still happen when they're illegal is inevitable. Kinda like sarcastically saying "it's a good thing murder is illegal, so no one will do it"

It's not totalitarian. It's common sense, reasonable restrictions - like "fire" in a crowded theater. When allowing something is bad for all, with no redeeming value whatsoever, I am basically for banning it.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by This_person

It's not totalitarian. It's common sense, That;s absurd. It's common sense to not destroy yourself with drugs AND it's common sense that it's not for me to tell you what you can and can't ingest AND it's common sense that if you start with one thing and find some rationale to support it, then you can move right on to another; cheeseburgers, 'bad' TV, 'bad' music, 'bad' political speech, etc...reasonable restrictions - like "fire" in a crowded theater. When allowing something is bad for all, with no redeeming value whatsoever, I am basically for banning it.

If I yell 'fire' when there is none and someone gets hurt in the stampede, that is my fault. If someone smokes crack and ruins there life because I don't think I have the right to impose on them a restriction saying they can't, it is THEIR fault, not mine.

Obesity.
Bad TV.
Bad political speech.
Not enough exercise.
Bad music.
Bad attitude.

Where do you want to start? More importantly, where does it stop?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

If I yell 'fire' when there is none and someone gets hurt in the stampede, that is my fault. If someone smokes crack and ruins there life because I don't think I have the right to impose on them a restriction saying they can't, it is THEIR fault, not mine.

Obesity.
Bad TV.
Bad political speech.
Not enough exercise.
Bad music.
Bad attitude.

Where do you want to start? More importantly, where does it stop?

Your slippery slope argument is a valid one, and it concerns me. However, drugs have been illegal for a long time, and we're not moving in that direction, so........


However, someone ruins more than their own life with drugs. That's the difference, and the point I've been trying to get across. If this were incessant TV watching, I'd be all there with you. It's not, I'm not.

[Ken King (Premo)]

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -Ronald Reagan, U.S. President

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Ken King

"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves." -Ronald Reagan, U.S. President

That should be engraved in every last desk on Capital Hill.

[2ndAmendment]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

That should be engraved in every last desk on Capital Hill.

It should be tattooed in reverse on every Congressman's forehead.

[2ndAmendment]

Originally Posted by This_person

Your slippery slope argument is a valid one, and it concerns me. However, drugs have been illegal for a long time, and we're not moving in that direction, so........


However, someone ruins more than their own life with drugs. That's the difference, and the point I've been trying to get across. If this were incessant TV watching, I'd be all there with you. It's not, I'm not.

Actually drugs have only been generally illegal since the repeal of prohibition. It was a money thing. People had switched from alcohol to drugs so they would not break the law. When prohibition was repealed, they were not switching back. The bootleggers that turned legal, Kennedy, et al, lobbied for laws against drugs so they could sell booze.

Good or bad or just a fact, people are going to get a buzz; alcohol, drugs, spinning like a top when you are a kid. All ways of getting a buzz.