Bipartisonship? We ain't interested in no Bipart.

[Tilted]

Finally, some political honesty sneaks through. Listen from about 2:40 to about 4:30.

In this interview, Harry Reid first suggests that Democratic legislators want to work in a bipartisan way with Republicans. However, when pressed on the issue by Becky Quick, his true sentiments are revealed.

He dismisses the need for House Democrats to 'spend much time working with the minority' because 'they have a tremendous majority'. He also seems to think that they achieved bipartisanship in the Senate because they got 3 Republican votes - 'We had one more than we needed'.

For a moment he was being genuine, but he quickly fell back into the line of B.S.

Video - CNBC.com

[ImnoMensa]

The stupid old turd says we need to ween ourselves off foreign oil and then goes on to mention sun ,wind ,geo-thermal and never mentions drilling for our own oil.

We are dead ducks. we have a great depression coming on and these people are still dreaming of pie in the sky energy sources that we dont have. God knows when this recession will be over, but with the help of government it will certainly take twice as long.

[chernmax (Premo)]

Originally Posted by ImnoMensa

The stupid old turd says we need to ween ourselves off foreign oil and then goes on to mention sun ,wind ,geo-thermal and never mentions drilling for our own oil.

We are dead ducks. we have a great depression coming on and these people are still dreaming of pie in the sky energy sources that we dont have. God knows when this recession will be over, but with the help of government it will certainly take twice as long.

That's because Pelosi and Reed are in the back pockets of T Boone Pickens and clean energy. Pelosi is even an investor in Pickens company so it makes perfect sense for her to strangle drilling and push for energy sources that will line her pockets. Talk about conflict of interest!!!

Pelosi Invested $50K to $100K in T. Boone’s Clean Energy Fuels « Earth2Tech

[puggymom]

I have what may be a stupid question but what does weening ourselves off foreign oil have to do with solar, wind whatever energy?
Correct me if I am wrong but foreign oil is what powers our cars whereas these alternative energies could produce electricity for our homes, whether efficiently or not is a moot point.

What do these two things have to do with one another? I mean how is solar power going to make us less dependant on foreign oil if they are used for two different purposes?
I always hear we need to ween ourselves off foreign oil by using alternative energy sources and it just does not make any sense to me.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by puggymom

I have what may be a stupid question but what does weening ourselves off foreign oil have to do with solar, wind whatever energy?
Correct me if I am wrong but foreign oil is what powers our cars whereas these alternative energies could produce electricity for our homes, whether efficiently or not is a moot point.

What do these two things have to do with one another? I mean how is solar power going to make us less dependant on foreign oil if they are used for two different purposes?
I always hear we need to ween ourselves off foreign oil by using alternative energy sources and it just does not make any sense to me.

I believe the Pickens plan has us use natural gas for cars, solar and wind for electricity, phasing out coal.

As long as we all agree to stop using electricity, this plan will work well.

[bcp]

Originally Posted by puggymom

I have what may be a stupid question but what does weening ourselves off foreign oil have to do with solar, wind whatever energy?
Correct me if I am wrong but foreign oil is what powers our cars whereas these alternative energies could produce electricity for our homes, whether efficiently or not is a moot point.

What do these two things have to do with one another? I mean how is solar power going to make us less dependant on foreign oil if they are used for two different purposes?
I always hear we need to ween ourselves off foreign oil by using alternative energy sources and it just does not make any sense to me.

lets say you work for me. and I task you to invent a new method to light the interior of buildings, like lets say the office space you work in that has no windows.
then, to make you work quicker, I take away your lightbulbs.

now, do you think you might have preferred keeping your existing lightbulb, and maybe even having an extra or two in case one burns out until you were able to come up with an acceptable alternative?

dont cut the fuel before you have something to replace it with.

[Tilted]

Originally Posted by puggymom

I have what may be a stupid question but what does weening ourselves off foreign oil have to do with solar, wind whatever energy?
Correct me if I am wrong but foreign oil is what powers our cars whereas these alternative energies could produce electricity for our homes, whether efficiently or not is a moot point.

What do these two things have to do with one another? I mean how is solar power going to make us less dependant on foreign oil if they are used for two different purposes?
I always hear we need to ween ourselves off foreign oil by using alternative energy sources and it just does not make any sense to me.

You're right - how we produce electricity has little to do with oil consumption. There are ways that they are related, but the correlation is marginal. Currently, less than 2% of our electricity production (and about 6% of our capacity) uses petroleum.

[BOP]

Originally Posted by Tilted

Finally, some political honesty sneaks through. Listen from about 2:40 to about 4:30.

In this interview, Harry Reid first suggests that Democratic legislators want to work in a bipartisan way with Republicans. However, when pressed on the issue by Becky Quick, his true sentiments are revealed.

He dismisses the need for House Democrats to 'spend much time working with the minority' because 'they have a tremendous majority'. He also seems to think that they achieved bipartisanship in the Senate because they got 3 Republican votes - 'We had one more than we needed'.

For a moment he was being genuine, but he quickly fell back into the line of B.S.

Video - CNBC.com

The lying, cheating, stealing, tax-and-spend, self-serving c*cks*cking demonrat-to-english translation: We won [so f you].

[puggymom]

Originally Posted by bcp

lets say you work for me. and I task you to invent a new method to light the interior of buildings, like lets say the office space you work in that has no windows.
then, to make you work quicker, I take away your lightbulbs.

now, do you think you might have preferred keeping your existing lightbulb, and maybe even having an extra or two in case one burns out until you were able to come up with an acceptable alternative?

dont cut the fuel before you have something to replace it with.

See that is what I mean...unless someone has an invention in the works for a solar or wind powered car that can still go 65mph how are those going to help decrease our dependance on foreign oil? And frankly as this_person stated I do not think they will help anyway unless everyone is willing to cut their electricity usage by like 95% or something.

[puggymom]

Originally Posted by Tilted

You're right - how we produce electricity has little to do with oil consumption. There are ways that they are related, but the correlation is marginal. Currently, less than 2% of our electricity production (and about 6% of our capacity) uses petroleum.

So why then is it that every time I hear a democrat speak about energy they always seem to say that we need to decrease our dependence on foreign oil and start looking into alternative energy sources. I mean yes they share a relation but like you said the correlation is marginal. It is kind of a pet peeve of mine lately.