I'm a radicalized rightwing extremist

[4Father]

Originally Posted by Bann

The report just reinforces what the Obama administration will be about for the next 3 years. I think they've overreached bigtime.

There was also a similar report issued by DHS on left wing extremists

Both reports were issued after Obama was sworn in but were intiated by the Bush administration. Source.

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by 4Father

There was also a similar report issued by DHS on left wing extremists

Both reports were issued after Obama was sworn in but were intiated by the Bush administration. Source.

It doesn't matter to who initiated the reports. The way the groups are defined is obviously biased.

Here, you have leftwing extremist groups as "splinter groups", "lone wolves", "small cells". They're considered small factions of the US society...

DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines leftwing extremists as
groups or individuals who embrace radical elements of the anarchist, animal rights, or environmental movements and are often willing to violate the law to achieve their objectives. Many leftwing extremist groups are not hierarchically ordered with defined members, leaders, or chain of command structures but operate as loosely-connected underground movements composed of “lone wolves,” small cells, and splinter groups.

...while the Rightwing Extremists are considered to be (among other things) anyone "rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority".

"Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely

The definition of "Rightwing Extremism" is not defined in the same narrow terms as the "Leftwing Extremism". Additionally, they define anyone who wants SMALLER GOVERNMENT as an extremist! That group is NOT a small faction of the US Society. This report is basically saying that the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is rightwing extremism.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Bann

It doesn't matter to who initiated the reports. The way the groups are defined is obviously biased.

Here, you have leftwing extremist groups as "splinter groups", "lone wolves", "small cells". They're considered small factions of the US society...



...while the Rightwing Extremists are considered to be (among other things) anyone "rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority".



The definition of "Rightwing Extremism" is not defined in the same narrow terms as the "Leftwing Extremism". Additionally, they define anyone who wants SMALLER GOVERNMENT as an extremist! That group is NOT a small faction of the US Society. This report is basically saying that the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is rightwing extremism.

Well done! Thank you for the clarification.

[4Father]

Originally Posted by Bann

It doesn't matter to who initiated the reports. The way the groups are defined is obviously biased.

Here, you have leftwing extremist groups as "splinter groups", "lone wolves", "small cells". They're considered small factions of the US society...



...while the Rightwing Extremists are considered to be (among other things) anyone "rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority".



The definition of "Rightwing Extremism" is not defined in the same narrow terms as the "Leftwing Extremism". Additionally, they define anyone who wants SMALLER GOVERNMENT as an extremist! That group is NOT a small faction of the US Society. This report is basically saying that the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is rightwing extremism.

I'm not quibbling with your allegation of bias. Just the fact that you blamed the current administration in a previous post.

The report just reinforces what the Obama administration will be about for the next 3 years. I think they've overreached bigtime.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by 4Father

I'm not quibbling with your allegation of bias. Just the fact that you blamed the current administration in a previous post.

Could the Obama administration not change this? Are they tied to what was initiated previously? Is this specifically the definition that was originated in the Bush administration time-frame, or did it evolve to what we see today after the Obama administration got involved?

[ImnoMensa]

It's pretty bad when a man who wont prove he is a Natural American attacks people who are. I was born and raised here, not in Kenya or Indonesia. Both my parents were Americans. I didnt study the Koran. I never went to college paid for by saudi's and I never bowed to a Saudi King.

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by 4Father

I'm not quibbling with your allegation of bias. Just the fact that you blamed the current administration in a previous post.

How did I blame the current administration? I said the report reinforces what they will be about for the next 3 years. They're making no bones that they are after anyone who is on the right. To the point of classifying people on the right who are against big government as some kind of extremists. And then the word is today that Napolitano stands by her statement.

The report just reinforces what the Obama administration will be about for the next 3 years. I think they've overreached bigtime.

[4Father]

Originally Posted by Bann

How did I blame the current administration?

Quote from you:

The report just reinforces what the Obama administration will be about for the next 3 years. I think they've overreached bigtime.

Is that not blame?

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by 4Father

Quote from you:


Is that not blame?

The report just reinforces what the Obama administration will be about for the next 3 years. I think they've overreached bigtime.

I'm quite capable of reading a normal font size, thankyouverymuch, so there's no need to be insulting by grossly enlarging the font.

And no, I don't think that's blaming - I think that's expressing my opinion that I think they've (the Obama administration) overreached bigtime in their assessments & classifications of conservatives in this country as being mostly right wing extremists.

I expanded on those thoughts in subsequent posts.