I'm a radicalized rightwing extremist

[ylexot]

Michelle Malkin » Confirmed: The Obama DHS hit job on conservatives is real
"Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely."

What about those of us that are pro-government...as long as that government follows the Constitution that it was founded on? Would that be those who reject the illegal acts of the government?

[Pete (Premo)]

Originally Posted by ylexot

Michelle Malkin » Confirmed: The Obama DHS hit job on conservatives is real
"Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely."

What about those of us that are pro-government...as long as that government follows the Constitution that it was founded on? Would that be those who reject the illegal acts of the government?

Isn't this the basis of the USA?

[ylexot]

Originally Posted by Pete

Isn't this the basis of the USA?

Not really. The US is a balance between federal and state/local. That's what the Civil War was about...strong federal/weak state or weak federal/strong state. Strong federal/weak state won, but states do still have a fair amount of autonomy. The fed has been going further and further out of bounds though and imposing more and more on the states...usually through money incentives like, "if you want money from us for education, you must do X". Basically, the states have been relinquishing their authority to the fed in exchange for money.

Originally Posted by ylexot

"Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely."

Found this in the Trackbacks ...

Obama’s Homeland Security Found The Real Terrorists

Obama is letting the muslim terrorists in Guantanamo out.

Obama wants to work with "moderate" Taliban.

Obama sends Valentine video to mullahs in Iran.

Obama bows to the king of Saudi Arabia.

Obama wants to speak with North Koreans.

Obama is sending millions to the terrorists in Gaza.

Yes folks, Obama is making nice with all the terrorists and their supporters and financiers. These people who are sworn to kill as many Americans as they can are no longer a threat.

The real threat we are facing are the conservatives in this country. They are the political opposition to Obama's coming tyranny and they need to be shut down and destroyed. Obama's homeland security department is on the job.

They have a DHS Office of Intelligence and Analysis report titled:

Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by ylexot

Not really. The US is a balance between federal and state/local. That's what the Civil War was about...strong federal/weak state or weak federal/strong state. Strong federal/weak state won, but states do still have a fair amount of autonomy.

I disagree. People of the day were not remotely interested, North or South, in advancing federal power. Far from it. Lincoln had stated, clearly, numerous times, that he would not touch slavery in the South because he believed a president does not have that right and, if he could, he still would not touch it.

Lincoln wanted one and only one thing; to keep the Union together and if that meant slavery, fine by him. The South chose to believe the worst of him not based on what he said he would do as president, but on what they wanted to believe.

He also believed this;

Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable - a most sacred right - a right, which we hope and believe, is to liberate the world.

[ylexot]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

I disagree. People of the day were not remotely interested, North or South, in advancing federal power. Far from it. Lincoln had stated, clearly, numerous times, that he would not touch slavery in the South because he believed a president does not have that right and, if he could, he still would not touch it.

Lincoln wanted one and only one thing; to keep the Union together and if that meant slavery, fine by him. The South chose to believe the worst of him not based on what he said he would do as president, but on what they wanted to believe.

He also believed this;

I don't see where I mentioned advancing federal power or slavery. But isn't keeping the union together by force the ultimate display of a strong fed? And what did the South form? A confederacy...you do know what a confederacy is, don't you?

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by ylexot

I don't see where I mentioned advancing federal power or slavery. But isn't keeping the union together by force the ultimate display of a strong fed? And what did the South form? A confederacy...you do know what a confederacy is, don't you?

When you said the civil was was about;

That's what the Civil War was about...strong federal/weak state or weak federal/strong state.

...I took it to mean advancing federal power at the expense of the states.

Certainly it became that, just as it became about slavery. My argument is that it did not start out that way.

Yes, the Southerners were very careful and deliberate in setting up a confederacy as a way of clarifying and reinforcing their idea of the way things were supposed to be.

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by ylexot

Michelle Malkin » Confirmed: The Obama DHS hit job on conservatives is real
"Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or ethnic groups), and those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely."
What about those of us that are pro-government...as long as that government follows the Constitution that it was founded on? Would that be those who reject the illegal acts of the government?

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

[Pete (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Bann

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

That's what I am talking about. This is why the constitution enumerates the few powers of the federal government and expressly states anything not given to the fed expressly by the constitution is the sovereignty of the the states.

Fed= Defense, interstate commerce, treaties, courts

States = Everything else.

[Bann (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Pete

That's what I am talking about. This is why the constitution enumerates the few powers of the federal government and expressly states anything not given to the fed expressly by the constitution is the sovereignty of the the states.

Fed= Defense, interstate commerce, treaties, courts

States = Everything else.

The report just reinforces what the Obama administration will be about for the next 3 years. I think they've overreached bigtime.

Governor Rick Perry is mad as he** and he's not going to take it anymore...


AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry joined state Rep. Brandon Creighton and sponsors of House Concurrent Resolution (HCR) 50 in support of states’ rights under the 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

“I believe that our federal government has become oppressive in its size, its intrusion into the lives of our citizens, and its interference with the affairs of our state,” Gov. Perry said. “That is why I am here today to express my unwavering support for efforts all across our country to reaffirm the states’ rights affirmed by the Tenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. I believe that returning to the letter and spirit of the U.S. Constitution and its essential 10th Amendment will free our state from undue regulations, and ultimately strengthen our Union.”

Perry continued: "Millions of Texans are tired of Washington, DC trying to come down here to tell us how to run Texas."

Office of the Governor Rick Perry - Gov. Perry Backs Resolution Affirming Texas’ Sovereignty Under 10th Amendment