'teabaggers'

Originally Posted by SamSpade

Hence the tea party - you know, the point of this thread. Pay attention.

When Obama's taxes start affecting you, you'll do the same, after a few rounds of needlessly defending them or pointing blame on Bush long after he's left office.

The recession has already hit ME. My retirement, which has taken 20 years to build up, has been severely cut down. It will never recoup the loss. My house has lost about a fifth of its value and is actually now worth less than when I bought it many years ago. It's still dropping. My taxes are going up because federal, state and local governments can't keep their budgets - so they find ways to raise taxes during a recession. Even sales taxes are pulling in fewer dollars. So to keep existing programs, rather than cut them, they raise taxes.

Be prepared for more in the next couple years, because gas, food and utilities will all go up - a lot. I'd recommned adjusting your withholding, because next year, you'll have a higher tax bill, despite the promises of only the rich paying.

And this is because Obama has managed to scare people into spending more than we have in the economy on all his programs, ostensibly to "stimulate" the economy but in fact, are just typical Democrat boilerplate.

I see nothing wrong with people of all parties saying enough - if you want to really cut the deficit, start with responsible SPENDING.

Unfortunately, disaster recovery is expensive.

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by Beaver-Cleaver

Al Gore was also the projected winner of the 2000 election.

Show me facts, not projections.

*Really?* Then add up the Bush deficits - you know, the actual numbers. Your article places future Wall Street cleanup on Bush, even if Obama spends the money.

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by Beaver-Cleaver

Unfortunately, disaster recovery is expensive.

It is if you spend a few million dollars a mile to re-pave a road.

I'm sorry, but you can't max out our credit and bankroll every pet project the Democrats have EVER conceived, waste trillions on Wall Street, and blame Bush for it.

[Pete (Premo)]

Originally Posted by ylexot

Did that "wasteful spending" happen to be primarily funding the military to conduct a war or two?

Yea and medicare perscription drug program.

Originally Posted by SamSpade

It is if you spend a few million dollars a mile to re-pave a road.

I'm sorry, but you can't max out our credit and bankroll every pet project the Democrats have EVER conceived, waste trillions on Wall Street, and blame Bush for it.

Unfortunately, Mr. Bush was the disaster I was speaking of.

What do we have to show for it?

The WTC is re... oh, nevermind.

The war is o... oh, wait a minute. He just handed that off to Obama.

Bin Lad... nevermind.

The economy is..............................

We caught Saddam Hussein!

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Beaver-Cleaver

Cost of the Bush era: $11.5 trillion - MSN Money

:tada:

Yes, Obama's spent a lot in 60 days. Unfortunately, disaster recovery is expensive... and we've had a disaster for the past 8 years.

But he hasn't been given a chance to make budget cuts. And everyone's already whining about those budget cuts.

It's what we're obligated to.

However, for fair comparison, let's take a look at actual budget numbers: Bush's budgets add up to $20,370,000,000,000. Over 8 years, that's an average of $2,546,250,000,000.

Obama's first budget proposal is $3,600,000,000,000. Averaged over one year, that's $3,6000,000,000,000.

Which is bigger, $3.6T/year, or $2.5T/year?

Mind you, Obama voted for the largest expenses of the Bush administration as well, so he's part of that overspending, too.

[Pete (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Beaver-Cleaver

Unfortunately, disaster recovery is expensive.

You mean like Katrina and 9/11?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Beaver-Cleaver

There are people who spoke up against Bush's wasteful spending plenty of times. 'Conservatives' mocked them, labeled them "angry bitter leftists" and continued their porkfest until the Dems took over. Now, those conservatives are whining about wasteful spending.

Do you fail to see the hypocrisy?

No, but why complain about the hypocrisy instead of the problem of the spending? Why are you calling the people using their Constitutional right of free public speech and public gathering names and laughing at your perception of the hypocrisy instead of addressing (with them, agreeing with them) on the issue? Does it somehow make their argument wrong if they weren't as strong of voice in the past as we'd like them to have been?

Originally Posted by This_person

It's what we're obligated to.

However, for fair comparison, let's take a look at actual budget numbers: Bush's budgets add up to $20,370,000,000,000. Over 8 years, that's an average of $2,546,250,000,000.

Obama's first budget proposal is $3,600,000,000,000. Averaged over one year, that's $3,6000,000,000,000.

Which is bigger, $3.6T/year, or $2.5T/year?

Mind you, Obama voted for the largest expenses of the Bush administration as well, so he's part of that overspending, too.

Like I said before, Obama hasn't even been given a chance to make budget cuts.

And how much of Mr. Bush's crisis is Obama inheriting? I've seen you righties say President Clinton gets 100% of the blame for 9-11 and that it was a crisis Bush inherited (which, yes, Bush inherited that). At the same since, the economic snafu is an inherited crisis.

Originally Posted by This_person

No, but why complain about the hypocrisy instead of the problem of the spending? Why are you calling the people using their Constitutional right of free public speech and public gathering names and laughing at your perception of the hypocrisy instead of addressing (with them, agreeing with them) on the issue? Does it somehow make their argument wrong if they weren't as strong of voice in the past as we'd like them to have been?

Because, once their favorite person gets in office and does the same thing, they'll have no problem with it.

In fact, I hope the Republicans get complete control in 2012. If they fail, I'll point, laugh and say "I told you so" as you blame Obama.